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[โ€“] netling@lemmy.world 34 points 3 days ago (2 children)

And close all US military bases in Europe. We don't need troops from a fascist dictator on our continent.

[โ€“] MrPoletki@feddit.uk 2 points 2 days ago

If Donald attacks Greenland, then the EU should seize all Us military bases in Europe immediately.

[โ€“] klairman@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Every day I wonder how on earth we accepted this situation, with honourable exceptions such as the French.

[โ€“] MehBlah@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago

Please do and expel our ambassadors. Close us off and isolate us. I say this because the more it happens. The more the drooling masses here are made to feel the reality of the situation the better. You simply would not believe the level of cognitive dissonance. These people are deluded.

[โ€“] ProfThadBach@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago (3 children)
[โ€“] Renohren@lemmy.today 1 points 2 days ago

They won't. BACO.

[โ€“] B0rax@feddit.org 1 points 3 days ago

In the end it is one of those classical lose - lose situations.

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[โ€“] thefluffiest@feddit.nl 38 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (7 children)

Good step, but we need to go further. Kick out all US companies. Block all big tech services, kick out McDonalds, oil companies, accountancy firms, block import of all General Motors cars. No more Apple stores, sorry. Block sales of microchip lithography machines. Close their factories and nationalize them.

Then, for good measure, dump all US bonds the ECB holds.

Thรฉn have a talk.

[โ€“] Babalugats@feddit.uk 3 points 3 days ago

But then where will all of the backhanders come from? For example, privacy is not a God given right, it's something that we should have to fight tooth and nail for - according to these same people that are currently fighting to monetise our privacy and 'eyeing' the freezing of a trade deal that they have probably already been paid half for, for agreeing to it in principal. Many of them, themselves fighting to clear their names of taking payments for agreements or contracts be they Pfizer, Apple, Google, Microsoft or any other mainly US company. They, nor their children or grandchildren will be held accountable or even have to deal with whatever comes as a result of this. So realistically don't care. Denmark citizens might get lucky with some deal that exempts them from all sorts of bullshit coming down the line that we won't know about until it's far too late.

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[โ€“] Lucky_777@lemmy.world 55 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The greatest weapon against the US is not bombs or military. It's selling us shit! We can't survive in isolation, consumer economy has fucked us for decades. Cut all trade and stop selling us products. Then we fall fast.

[โ€“] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago (1 children)

America is brandishing a shotgun and the EU is threatening to take it off the christmas card list!?

Same thing the eu did to russia lmfao

[โ€“] redlemace@lemmy.world 48 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Cut all trade. Damn, usa boycot came to the pathetic level i'm not even accepting american-english when installing an o/s. It's a common default, but i scroll to uk or canadian english. Pathetic, i know, yet here we are.

[โ€“] danekrae@lemmy.world 31 points 4 days ago

I double check everything I buy, to make sure nothing supports USA.

[โ€“] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 16 points 4 days ago (2 children)

This is why I support Mark Carney in using British spellings and words. Letโ€™s gut out all the American influence from our English.

[โ€“] stray@pawb.social 2 points 2 days ago

Why bother yourself with "color" or "colour" when you could choose the Anglish hue?

[โ€“] _Nico198X_@europe.pub 2 points 3 days ago (2 children)

No no no, if you still want to use English, then it's a chance to move to Shavian.

https://www.shavian.info/

[โ€“] kubofhromoslav@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago (3 children)

I even work on spreading Esperanto, as a neutral language for Europe and humankind ๐Ÿซก

[โ€“] _Nico198X_@europe.pub 2 points 3 days ago

this is our chance! :D

[โ€“] TipsyMcGee@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I have been interested in Esperanto for unrelated reasons, any tips on where to start?

[โ€“] kubofhromoslav@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If you are website enjoyer, https://lernu.net/ is a solid, free of charge web course in many languages, with big community.ย 

I have also heard good reviews on the Zagreb Method - https://esperanto12.net/

If you prefer apps, https://www.duolingo.com/ works great in English, if a lot of examples is your way to go.

Of you are a book person, I have read that "Complete Esperanto" by Tim Owen is highly acclaimed. Also "Esperanto per rekta metodo" ("Esperanto by direct method", so directly on Esperanto with elimination of translations) works great for many people.

Some very basic stuff, mostly list of common phases for traveling, it's available at Wikivoyage, in several languages ๐Ÿ‘‡ https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q143#sitelinks-wikivoyage

Using Anki flashcards helps to memorize words, but I am not using it so I am not sure where to find the data to use...

If you prefer in-person course, you may ask people from the Esperanto organization in your country (see https://uea.org/landoj), or visit some meeting to get in-depth answers and make new friends (see https://eventaservo.org/).

Ultimately, it depends on your learning style to select (or create) a learning process, but these are solid. Enjoy, and please comment here after some time about your progress. I would love to know!

[โ€“] TipsyMcGee@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Thanks! Iโ€™m historically not a strong language learner, but will check out lernu.net

I had big problems with languages all the way up to university, but get Esperanto pretty quickly. Good luck ๐Ÿคž

[โ€“] starlinguk@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Why? English from England.

[โ€“] kubofhromoslav@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

English, as an national language, is great for national communication.

But using national language for international communication is like using black-white television to watch a color movie - it kind of works, but it definitely loses a lot.

There are at least 2 important factors:

  1. neutrality: English used for international communication favors people from English speaking countries. Inside of Europe that is not to big problem, because Ireland and Malta, while being great counties, have relatively small population - so English can work as a reasonably neutral language for European communication. But when it comes to Europe in world - English is used but a country that left us and by country that wages trade war against us. That highlights that English definitely is not a worldwide neutral language.

  2. ease of use: Esperanto was designed to be easy to learn and use, while functioning very well as a mean of communication. It does not carry a burden of centuries of non-systemic evolution, so it does not have things like irregular verbs. It's grammar is very regular with simple rules. It enables creating words with a set of prefixes and sufixes so one does not need to learn a bunch of new (different) words about related things (like: to eat, to snack, to feast, food, meal, cantina, utensils, etc. - they are manฤi, manฤeti, manฤegi, manฤo, manฤaฤตo, manฤejo, manฤiloj etc). Experience shows that learning Esperanto is 5-10x faster that learning national languages. It's just much not efficient.

Than comes other factors, like pushing some way of thinking, usual for one specific nation, to all humankind, atc, but those 2 are the basic ones.

[โ€“] _Nico198X_@europe.pub 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Esperanto + Shavian is the constructed future i dream of.

[โ€“] kubofhromoslav@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

By chance, is it you who is posting this on Mastodon?

[โ€“] _Nico198X_@europe.pub 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

i'm not on Mastodon anymore.

[โ€“] kubofhromoslav@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ah, OK. Because someone was posting about Esperanto in a different writing system.

[โ€“] _Nico198X_@europe.pub 2 points 1 day ago

there are dozens of us! dozens! ๐Ÿ˜†

[โ€“] _Nico198X_@europe.pub 2 points 3 days ago

English is just not great as an international language. It is one because of imperialistic history.

Between the US and brexit, it's a great incentive to maybe move on.

Year of Esperanto here we come! XD

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[โ€“] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

i scroll to uk or canadian english. Pathetic, i know, yet here we are.

Dude. This entire country is boycotting the US out of sheer spite. You cannot out-petty us all, so carry on.

[โ€“] redlemace@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

Greetings from europe (call us if you wanna talk to a friend)

[โ€“] regedit@lemmy.zip 9 points 3 days ago

The only thing these ghouls care about is money and their lives. If removing their ilk is impossible, hit their profit margins. Seriously. I don't know why anyone with power and/or influence in this world are capitulating to this govt. and the cry-baby-bitches currently holding the reigns.

If Fascism is Capitalism when it's threatened by progressive ideas, then stopping it requires might and/or money. If the world can't stop the might of a rouge nation, stop the money instead. Make this country suffer economically and you'll see them fold faster than the Democrats did when the shutdown threatened holiday travel and consumer spending!

[โ€“] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 37 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Unitedstatesian here: boycott us. Seriously, do it. Iโ€™m not kidding. This isnโ€™t a joke, or sarcastic. From where Iโ€™m standing, it looks like a popular grassroots response could be the strongest response the EU is going to be giving in the near to mid term future.

Also, I hope your leaders are preparing contingency plans, but the time to do that was honestly way back in 2016-17 when it became apparent what his intentions and predilections were. I am concerned that it could be too little, too late, with regards to establishing independent European security that cannot be fundamentally undermined by our now-fascist government.

[โ€“] Amberskin@europe.pub 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Iโ€™m sorry to say this but what the world needs is you to be inflicted an humiliating, clear military defeat somewhere. Maybe losing a carrier, maybe getting some of those B2 shot down in one of those โ€˜beautiful bombingsโ€™. You (and the world) need to see your military is not unbreakable and pretending to be the owners of the world is not going to end well.

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[โ€“] JPAKx4@piefed.blahaj.zone 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Bonus if you sell off 10 year us treasuries

Oh yep, that too. Boycott investing in US stuff, if you werenโ€™t already. And then tell your MPs or legislators or whatever term is relevant in your country that you want them to push for divesting from US sovereign debt as a national policy.

[โ€“] yuumei@feddit.uk 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Sell US treasuries, or maybe Kier could stop buying them like they are 2 for 1

You can vote for it, right? The UK is a democracy, right? Right?

[โ€“] HenriVolney@sh.itjust.works 21 points 4 days ago

That's a good first step. Then, tax the hell out of US majors and tech companies

[โ€“] _Nico198X_@europe.pub 4 points 3 days ago

shut it all down. cut them off.

[โ€“] Gamechanger@slrpnk.net 5 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Left wingers to the rescue! Once again. Was a shitty deal to begin with...

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