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I miss when MGTOW wasn't co-opted by incels. It used to be dudes talking about goals they were pursuing or hobbies they enjoyed. Some were even married!! It was more about trying to "follow your own path" and making sure you carve out time for things you enjoy doing instead of losing your entire life to a family or children or job or feeling like you needed to follow the "traditional" path. But that was over a decade ago. And now, ironically, all MGTOW does is focus on women.
I think it was inevitable because women were the common thread that held it all together. If people wanted to talk about hobbies, they should just go to a forum for that hobby, not a "I'm doing hobbies instead of seeing women" forum because the focus is already off the hobby and on how much the hobby can help distract from the desire to see a woman.
I always saw mgtow as a group as obsessed with women as the incels, they were just coping with their pain differently (and better, don't get me wrong, mgtow is far less dangerous than inceldom, but they are similar in patheticness).
And note that I'm only talking about people who make that a core part of their identity. I think it's OK to decide that you're not going to pursue dating anymore, whether it's because you don't want to be hurt or because you don't feel worthy of love or whatever. But if you're constantly bringing it up or always want to talk about it, it might be a sign that you're not actually OK with that choice.
My old boss says she rather risk her life riding a weemo taxi than take a Uber.
When asked why, she said that an Uber driver dropped her off at home, after about 15 minutes, then Uber driver was still messaging her. She ignored it. After 15 minutes later, the APP asked her if anything is wrong because the driver was still parked at her front door.
She called the police and they showed up 30 minutes later and made him leave. Dude was at her house messaging her for 45 minutes.
Ya, I'm a dude and I would also choose bear.
It's also wild to me that I've been told multiple times by experienced outdoorsmen that the most dangerous animal you can encounter in the woods is another human, but that's entirely forgotten as soon as the culture war revs up.
yup. all kinds of people in this thread equating "encountering a bear" to "being mauled by a bear"
Well of course, being that the other side of it is equating "meeting a man" to "being raped or murdered by a man."
In reality, 99.99% of the time in both cases absolutely nothing will happen, but that doesn't stir up fear and anger so it's less fun to acknowledge that.
You know how many bears I've seen in the woods in all my days out there? 4. Know how many men I've seen? Me neither, lost count somewhere in the hundreds (ok I never counted because it's such a common and trivial thing). In all those times, the bears kept eating from the dumpster and the men politely nod and keep walking. Ironically the bears eating from dumpsters are the more likely ones to kill people, and strangers are the least likely people to kill people (usually someone you already know), but still, nothing happened.
clearly they haven't met a moose
but yeah, animals mostly just want to be left alone. usually it is pretty easy to do that when you come across one
This is worse than them implying they deserve to be mauled... It's literally showcasing that they don't care. If they don't get validation, then they will actively allow the mauling.
This is an active action, not a passive one. They are walking by, allowing the violence. It's definitely proving the point.
A bear's intentions are obvious.
if you can read bear body language, maybe. if you don't.. uh, no, they're not, they can change suddenly.
Wild how a simple safety tip got turned into a whole fantasy scenario. Sometimes the point really is just: let people feel safe.
Post of a kind "Men once again prove women right"
Jeez. These comments.
I don't understand why this triggers so many men. I think a lot of them just have absolutely no experience talking with women or reading about their interactions with men. Just a total lack of curiosity or interest in what life is like for women.
Genuinely men don't see some of the issues women deal with. Like, all of my female friends have stories about dudes being creeps, but my male friends mostly don't have stories like that. It's extremely easy to be out of touch with even your close friends on this matter.
absolutely no experience talking with women
Also, most people have no experience with wildlife and think all bears are murder machines.
The vast majority of bear encounters outside of very specific locations are with black bears. In which case you just end up momentarily scaring each other and then they run away.
I personally don't like it because the analogy makes the generalization that ALL men are evil and planning to cause harm. That's incorrect, and vilifies me. I didn't do anything to be vilified. I didn't throw any stones, so wtf...
Generally speaking, I abhor these types of fictitious analogies. I understand that women have apprehension of men in general. I know why that is. This whole bear thing is just mean to every man though. I don't appreciate it.
I really don't want to give a rhetoric lesson in a comment, but not everything people say is a 100% absolute that is about you specifically. It's a commentary on the fact that many women do not feel safe around a random man because of their lived experiences. If you don't understand why that is, you have the entire internet at your disposal.
Look, you claimed you didn't understand something. I attempted to provide feedback that would provide insight. It's pretty clear your claim that you didn't understand wasn't sincere; just more wanting to shit on people that feel bad about having been shit on already. I didn't ask for you to provide anything at all; you probably shouldn't have. You seem like a terrible human being.
Men in general have no idea what women have to deal with [from men]. And so many men are fragile and want to turn it around and make themselves the victims. If you are having a hard time befriending women, then you need to look deeper into your actions and how they might be perceived by someone who has to deal with unprovoked messaging, calling, touching, staring, following, etc. Men are the reason women travel in groups to the restroom, or that there is such a thing as a drink cover in a bar, or that there are women only driver options for ride services, etc. etc. You just need to realize that even if the actual percentage of men who are creepers is low, it doesn't mean that the number of interactions women have with them is not. All it takes is one scary moment for a woman to be put on the defensive for good.
Yeah, I'm shocked at the level of misogyny on Lemmy. I swear shit was never this bad even a few months ago? Maybe I was being ignorant.