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[–] reliv3@lemmy.world 46 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

I can't say how it's going to affect all men, but for me (who is a man) that is not how it affects me. The fact that there exists a lot of mysogonistic men doesn't reflect on me. I am confident that I'd be one of the men who'd just leave a woman alone if we ever met in the woods, so knowing that there are a lot of men out their who wouldn't doesn't get me salty at the women who are fearful of them; but rather, it gets me salty at the shithead men out there who are ultimately the root of the women's fear.

Right now, you are ultimately expressing your anger towards the hypothetical victim rather getting angry at the hypothetical asshole.

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 8 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

there's an element too of that in a patriarchal society if you have the position of privilege of existing as a man, it's not enough to not be dangerous towards women. you have to actively help women be safe

[–] InputZero@lemmy.world 18 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

You're so close, perhaps you chose your words poorly. Actively helping women be safe is, I'll call it positive misogyny, in that you definitely understand the problem but your solution is still defined by misogyny.

Men don't need to actively help women be safe, because that still doesn't provide full agency to women. You, a man, have to actively stop other men from being unsafe. Either through helping each other grow or force if necessary.

I'm impressed with how close you were to the mark. Seriously I think you understand why the patriarchy is bad. I'm just ust helping you, who I assume is another man, grow hopefully

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 16 points 17 hours ago

i will word this differently in the future, thank you. the actions i mean are as you describe: confront men on their bullshit