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[–] HenriVolney@sh.itjust.works 268 points 3 weeks ago (12 children)

Every damn power plant is a glorified steam engine

[–] hades@feddit.uk 159 points 3 weeks ago (25 children)

Except solar. And wind. And hydro.

[–] OrganicMustard@lemmy.world 146 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

Some solar is also boiling water

[–] voracitude@lemmy.world 53 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

And some of it is boiling salt!

Which then boils water, of course.

But some of it is electrons from photonic impact, no water involved! In the process of energy generation anyway. Statistically and perhaps somewhat ironically, the electrons from that photonic impact may well be used to boil water regardless... Humans just fucking love boiling water.

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[–] xx3rawr@sh.itjust.works 38 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Expect for solar, it's all just flowy stuff through spinny stuff: wind, water, steam. GRAAAAAAAAAA

[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 19 points 3 weeks ago

Good ol' mill.

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[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago

And wind.

wind is just the effects of premade steam

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[–] magic_lobster_party@fedia.io 82 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

We’re living in a steampunk world after all

[–] Slovene@feddit.nl 37 points 3 weeks ago

I'm a steampunk girl

In a steampunk world

It's not a big big thing if you steam me

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[–] mossberg590@lemmy.world 37 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Readily available, low boiling point, non corrosive (relatively), and ecologically safe. What more do you want?

[–] MutantTailThing@lemmy.world 31 points 3 weeks ago

Also a ridiculously high heat capacity. It does make sense.

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[–] socsa@piefed.social 123 points 3 weeks ago (15 children)

One of the fusion startups says they can use the plasma B field directly. Basically making the plasma the rotor in an electric generator to induce current in a wire.

[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 62 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I really like this concept, wonder how viable it really is though.

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 49 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

It seems promising, they're acting like they're close. They've been promising concrete deliverables, I think they're supposed to have a working model that can actually capture the energy next year

You never know, but they're called Triton if you want to check them out. They don't share progress often, but when they do it seems pretty candid about their progress

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 27 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Please don't let it be another Theranos, please don't let it be another Theranos 🙏

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[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 118 points 3 weeks ago (11 children)

Why don't we just pipe our water all the way out to the sun and pipe the steam back to earth.

[–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 130 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

That's silly.
Clouds would knock the pipes down.

[–] Wilco@lemmy.zip 37 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I was thinking you could put giant fans on it to blow the clouds away, but then the moon would also knock it down once you got up that high.

[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 18 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

What if… hear me out… we pipe straight up into space, and then use a 90° bend to angle the remaining pipe to the sun. Shouldn’t Be too difficult, but I bet those plumbers would charge an expensive ass trip fee.

~We’ll need a shit ton of that purple PVC glue though.~

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 18 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Then we have to wait until the purple PVC glue goes on sale

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[–] markz@suppo.fi 26 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

How long is that gonna take? A few decades?

-Sam Altman, when he hears about this

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[–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 56 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Reminds me of one of my favorite photos, a steam engine being delivered by steam engine!

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[–] SomeAmateur@sh.itjust.works 53 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I wonder if nuclear would get more traction If it was pitched as enhanced steam power instead

[–] birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone 74 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

"It's a blockchain of an highly enhanced hydrogen process. Thanks to its AI quantum mechanism it manages to increase the energy output by a ton through its cloud."

Just tell that to investors and they'll gobble it up. /s

[–] inlandempire@jlai.lu 26 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)
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[–] zarathustra0@lemmy.world 19 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (15 children)

I wonder how fast we could get a steam train to go if we stuck a suitably shaped non-critical amount of plutonium in the firebox.

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[–] Bluewing@lemmy.world 35 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

Reading the comments, it would seem most everyone here thinks that the usefulness of the steam is done when it gets used to turn a turbine at high pressure.

The steam can be used for much more than once. In the 1800's and early 1900s when steam ran trains and ships, they built double and triple expansion engines that took the energy of the steam two and three times before it was done. It doesn't need to be one and done. And when the energy is done being harvested for power generation, it can used for other things. Engineers today aren't dumber than the ones in the 1800s.

I can remember a small rural Minnesota town that had their own coal fired electric plant. (Built back before the REA was a thing). They took the left over steam from power generation and then piped it to around 200 homes in the town and heated them with the leftover steam. While a bit costly to install, it was dirt cheap to run. Those homes lost all that when the power plant was shut down and they had to switch to either natural gas, fuel oil, LP, or electricity.

So don't get hung up on just the power generation. Think what could be beyond that point.

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[–] Meron35@lemmy.world 33 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Low key this is a great way to convince people to switch away from fossil fuels.

Most people seemingly don't know that coal/gas stations work by essentially boiling water. Most are horrified at how trashy and underdeveloped the concept is compared to high tech alternatives like solar, wind, or hydro.

[–] Geobloke@aussie.zone 24 points 3 weeks ago (12 children)

Well, hydro is just spinning water again, wind is spinning air. Solar is stealing electrons from the sun (i think?) So that's cool

[–] tja@sh.itjust.works 23 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Well, the sun is sending them to us, so it's not really stealing!

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[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 21 points 3 weeks ago

stealing

reappropriating :D

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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 28 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

We live in a Steampunk world without Steampunk aesthetics. 😩

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[–] Angelevo@feddit.nl 28 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)
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[–] SmokeyDope@piefed.social 24 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

"Dyson Spheres? Look, playing with sunlight and mirrors was a fun side project, but you want to know a much more advanced method of generating power?"

"Please dont...."

"Thats right! By hurling entire water worlds into a star, we then capture the released steam which powers our gravitationally locked dynamo network."

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[–] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world 24 points 3 weeks ago

It's always been about finding new ways to spin a turbine

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

There's only 3 major ways to transform different forms of energy into electricity, which are:

  • solar panels (light -> electricity)
  • mechanical engines/generators (mechanical movement -> electricity)
  • electrochemical battery (chemical dipole -> electricity)

there's a whole lot more, such as thermoelectric generator and piezoelectricity but these are the three significant ones.

note that i distinguish these categories by their core essence, such as whether they're using changes in magnetic flux (like a mechanical generator) or transferring 1 photon on each electron (like solar panels), instead of looking at what source type of energy they transform.

because there's many ways to transform e.g. light energy into electricity. you could also heat water with the sunlight and then drive a steam engine with it. but that's not what i care about. i care about the fundamental connection between different types of energy, and how they can be directly transformed to one another.

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[–] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 19 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

Well, you can apparently also use supercritical carbon dioxide.

That might be fun.

But you're basically still boiling something to make it spin a magnet.

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[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 18 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Just pipe the electroplasma directly into the workstations. Sure, sometimes this results in dangerous overloads during adverse conditions, but that's what the Cordry rocks are for.

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[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 18 points 3 weeks ago

There are actually versions of fusion reactors that use the magnetic fields generated by the plasma in order to make electricity directly.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 16 points 3 weeks ago

Wasn't there one concept too with catching neutrons directly to ...generate heat, ah right.

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