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[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 55 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Meanwhile I'm being taxed far too much

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

T(axed) E(nough) A(lready) Party

[–] Nythos@sh.itjust.works 7 points 6 months ago

Axed nough lready

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[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 47 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

They've been allowed to game the system to hoard way more wealth than any single person should have been able to. They were supposed to pay their employees more, charge less to their customers or if all fails pay more taxes. But they didn't do any of that.

If this was a video game that would be called an "exploit that breaks the gameplay experience for everyone else" and it would have been solved in a patch. But to remain in the same analogy, they are buddies with the game developers so they're allowed to do anything they want. The only difference is that everyone in the country is forced to play this broken game as it is.

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 29 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I've played fallout for more than 2 decades. How the fuck are we diving face first into every sci-fi dystopia at the same time? Like, there's hints of star wars, dune, fallout, 1984, the outer worlds, hunger games, Idiocracy etc. I'm hoping cyberpunk 2077 shows up and gives a sliver of a chance.

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 28 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Because those things were based on the real world and we are very bad at learning from the ever-growing list of mistakes we can’t stop making.

Cyberpunk 2077 is not a good world and does not have a good ending. That world is a horrid, capitalist dystopia. Maybe you should watch Edgerunners if you still can’t figure it out from the game.

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The point was that as bad as cyberpunk's future is, I'm fairly certain ours will be worse in 52 years. At least in their timeline there's a resistance.

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[–] zaki_ft@lemmings.world 11 points 6 months ago

The main reason is because people are stupid and get taken advantage of accordingly.

Every time you saw a moron say "they're a business and they need to make money!" you saw someone lowering their standards to make a rich person richer.

[–] fonix232@fedia.io 22 points 6 months ago (1 children)

These assholes get taxed 1-2% on their total wealth increases per year - and even that gets offset with their loopholes - meanwhile the average people pay anywhere between 30-50% of just their income (and that doesn't account for other taxes like VAT, property, vehicle and road taxes, and so on).

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago

And not only that, but if you taxed them at 99% they’d still have silly amounts of money and ungodly financial security while even 20% off a poor person being paid by a less rich local business is just hurting the both of them. Taxes are a good thing but like you say they are horrendously unbalanced.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 21 points 6 months ago (6 children)

Seize their assets, fund NASA.

That's how you actually make America great.

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[–] bagsy@lemmy.world 21 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

No one should have enough money to purchase entire branches of government. Musk could give every member of congress 10 million and still be a billionarie many times over. That kind of wealth is not compatible with democracy.

[–] minorkeys@lemmy.world 16 points 6 months ago (1 children)

They are choosing to devote vast amounts of finite earth resources on their space man hobbies instead of using any of it to fix or improve the situation on earth, in their countries or for anyone else other than themselves. These people should be dragged out of their comfortable lives for crimes against humanity.

[–] FatVegan@leminal.space 5 points 6 months ago (2 children)

They have nothing to improve. Their life is great. And that's the problem.

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[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 15 points 6 months ago (1 children)

90% should be the minimum after 1 million a year

[–] foggianism@lemmy.world 15 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I'd go for 99% after 5 bil

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

Log tax rate.

[–] tfm@europe.pub 5 points 6 months ago

Billionaires shouldn't exist at all

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[–] senorseco@lemmy.today 14 points 6 months ago (11 children)

It's not a policy failure at all. It's a systemic feature. Capitalism is dog eat dog until only one dog remains. If you want to fix it you need a new economic system.

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[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago (6 children)

I say we put them all in a rocket and shoot them into space...

That's it. Problem solved.

[–] GuyLivingHere@lemmy.ca 8 points 6 months ago (2 children)
[–] faintwhenfree@lemmus.org 8 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Anchor and chains in 20m waters is much cheaper.

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago (2 children)

It's a clear sign the government isn't, itself, spending enough on spaceflight and associated R&D.

Turning our next generation of economic and military supremacy over to the dipshit horn dogs that tanked retail sales and fucked up the post office seems like a huge mistake.

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

With higher progressive taxes, not only do we stop billionaires from possibly existing, but the government gets more resources to spend on spaceflight R&D among other things.

[–] Bimfred@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Governments HAVE the resources. They CHOOSE to not spend it on R&D.

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Both can be true

[–] chosensilence@pawb.social 12 points 6 months ago

it isn't. it is an intended best case scenario for those invested. capitalism rewards trickery and thievery. excess wealth is part of its system dependent on class hierarchies. it was millionaires before billionaires and now we're about to have our first trillionaire. for fucks sake.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 12 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I think we just need to send them into space... Forcibly. Permanently.

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[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 11 points 6 months ago

The fact that there are billionaires is the sign that they're not being taxed enough.

Massive infrastructure / R&D projects like a space race is actually one of the more productive ways that billionaires could use their money.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago
[–] lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I don't even know who the first one is and I'm kind of afraid of finding out

[–] jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works 16 points 6 months ago (2 children)
[–] Entertainmeonly@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Not that it really matters but he's been knighted.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago

She should have swung that sword a lot harder

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[–] Mr_Dr_Oink@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

If there was a space race then you can guarantee that elon would want it out of the country.

[–] Avicenna@programming.dev 6 points 6 months ago

nor that they give a rat's ass about sustainability, humanity, earth etc like some of them like Elon claims

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 6 points 6 months ago

If you've got money to waste on doing the same space shots that they've been doing for the last 65 years, just with newer technology, all while people in America are hungry, and suffering from lack of health care, then we should take away everything they own, and redistribute it to the people. We can even name each distribution after the benefactor. First we'll have the Musk distribution, then the Bezos, distribution, then the Ellison distribution, etc.

And their companies, primarily created and made profitable by government grants and tax breaks, belong to the American people, and they should be confiscated, and operated for the profit benefit of the American people. To make it fair, the billionaire, and his descendents, will always have an entry level job available, at entry level wages, but they will be treated like any other employees, and can be fired without rehiring privileges. They aren't entitled to any special treatment, other than a guaranteed job. After that, they have to behave themselves.

[–] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago (2 children)

$999,999,999 is just fine though!

Stop focusing on an arbitrary figure and start focusing on a real progressive income tax with no loopholes or workarounds.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

"Billionaire" is a sound bite to focus attention. Publicizing "An improved progressive taxation rate" isn't as marketable.

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[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 4 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Either not taxed enough or there's almost no competition in the thing they do. And in a healthy free market, there should definitely be competition in a field that nets that much profits. The logical conclusion is that something is actively preventing the competition.

[–] AppleTea@lemmy.zip 6 points 6 months ago (4 children)

In a free market, competition has end results. Buisnes don't just keep competing with one another ad infinitum. One of them eventually cant keep up and closes shop. It's competitors expand into the space it previously filled. This process repeats until you have fewer and fewer firms that account for more and more of their sector of the economy. New business do not have resources to eke out space in an already filled niche.

Under a long enough time frame, a free market creates less competition.

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