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I don’t disagree with this mindset, but I do want to say that it should be on the plaintiff to prove your child caused the problem rather than the defendant to prove they did not. Proving a negative is damn near impossible in court.

If your choices raise everyone else’s risk, it’s fair that you carry some of the burden. Courts deal in probability every day.

Agreed - it's pretty unlikely that you'd be able to prove something like that.

I suppose you could try to apply precedents surrounding HIV disclosure, but I think it'd be a tough sell.

Edit: And to be clear, even in that situation, we're talking about disclosure, not actual treatment-related choices.

Im not a judge.

They are still free to practice their religion.

Quarrentine - No public schools or markets, or public places if there is an outbreak and unvaccinated.

Ignore them when they harm society. They don't get the freedom to commit murder and they shouldn't get the freedom to not follow public health requirement just because they have some mumbo jumbo excuse.

Religious freedom can go suck a dick when it harms other people.

According to the Church of the JustPulledANewReligionOutOfMyAss, our Chief Papa Ghost said I need to break your kneecaps then push you onto a busy highway: your sacrifice is nothing personal, but if I don't do it, I'll spend eternity being spanked by fire goats. Doesn't make sense to me either, but Chief Papa Ghost works in mysterious ways, so I don't have a choice, you see? It's my religion!

...except if I actually tried that, I'd spend the rest of my life in prison, cuz even religious freedom doesn't give me the right to kill people 'because God'.

At least not directly: I can still kill you without consequence by spreading a completely avoidable pathogen to you, but giving that scenario the "wtf?!" treatment is pretty much why OP made this thread, lol.

Now if you'll excuse me, Chief Papa Ghost had a kid out of wedlock with a lower-dimensional being, and it just so happens that he's made of BBQ twist Fritos and Rootbeer, so I'm gonna go commune.

These Mennonites?

If there is no disease there is no contagious.

this is the disturbing reality of the current attitude. People have no idea how important body sovereignty is.

Kids shouldn’t be getting measles in the first place. No measles, no problems you described. No anger here.

I mean, from a simple enforcement perspective "prove that you're vaxxed" runs into the same problem as "prove that you're a legal resident".

Access to health care, access to documentation of that health care, and the ability to produce it on demand all require certain amenities that marginalized people don't have. It's a rule that inevitably penalizes people for being poor.

Shy of getting people chipped and slotting your medical records into the same system that we use for criminal enforcement, the folks enforcing the laws will default to the assumption that you're at fault until you can prove otherwise.