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One day we may find something AI won't defile, but sadly that day isn't today.
Good job, Mozilla! You had people working for you for free, and you managed to fuck it up by trying to replace their voluntary efforts with a sub-par alternative costing you money. ^You^ ^idiots.^
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I don't get the logic behind replacing high quality human translations with lower quality AI ones.
Probably it could simplify their deployment process. They could package all AI translated languages at the same time of English packaging. Instead of waiting for volunteer for human translation.
However, it is extremely shortsighted, especially considering it's Mozilla which is technically a non-profit company. It's more understandable if it's a public company with investor's pressure and there are costs associated with manual translation.
But it wont't simplify the process if the SumoBot reverts human-made translations. I read the post of Michele Rodaro who seems to bee in charge of the Italien Community, and he wrote that the Italian language is rather complex and nuanced language. Some sentences requiere more words, verbs, and phrases that doesn't refelct the original En-US text.
" If a technical writer edits the original en-US article and replaces some words in a sentence, or just some words, SumoBot intervenes in the translation of that sentence and rearranges it to faithfully reflect the en-US text. So, if I added something to make a concept more understandable for an Italian user, those additions have been reverted in the new version of SumoBot"
The reasoning is: we MUST shove AI into literally everything because that's what everyone else is doing. What if it ends up working for them and we stay behind? Then the line will stop going up!
I can't wait for this damn bubble to burst.
AI slop for the AI slop investors!
It's not logic. It's someone chasing buzzwords wanting something they can slap their name on. They have no real talent or skill and believe AI is the way for "them" to finally achieve something. This is preferable to them over actually making an effort to learn and improve themselves.
Because as soon as they amoratize the $100Bs spent on development, its cheaper.
Mozilla just can't stop with these unforced errors lately.
lately? you mean since forever
I'm a little confused. Are these translations not in source control? Can you not revert the changes since it was introduced?
Pretty sure they are. After all he said to not use his work for training. So it still exists somewhere.
But the volunteers see it as an attack on or dismissal of their contributions. Especially since the bot applied the changes directly to production. They don't quit because it's irreversible, they quit because of the message leadership sent.
Yes, you can. But the main problem is that the bot updates or translates immediately, which means they can't really train new contributors on how the localization process works and the syntax of the Sumo wiki if they just end up proofreading what the SumoBot already translated. Besides that, it seems like the implementation of the bot happened without any communication, which is a shitty move and a middle finger to the community anyway.
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Zen maybe. Everything is either chromium or Firefox or safari right now. I keep using Firefox so google doesn't have complete control over everything. I don't want to use anything chromium either.
Whichever one works in Japanese I suppose
seamonkey is good but lacks compatibility, palemoon is good but the devs had a bunch of dramas
Based on some of the reactions from other translation teams it seemed linked to a bug specific to Asian languages though. I didn't read all of the comments because some wrote half a novel, but while this absolutely sucks it sounds more like a botched attempt at introducing the sumo bot than a deliberate slight.
When you introduce a bot that can and will revert any human-made translation, even if the translation is fine, then that's a huge middle finger to a community that is over two decades old. They could have rolled out the new bot on a staging server to test, discuss, and improve how the SUMO Bot could lend the community a hand, but instead, they decided to deploy it directly on the live server without any communication.
The bug caused the SUMO bot to revert already translated content back to English. So that doesn't really have anything to do with why everyone is upset.
large size oof for mozilla
The fucking suits who greenlit throwing in a bot to ruin what amounts to a passion project.