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A "Showerthought" is a simple term used to describe the thoughts that pop into your head while you're doing everyday things like taking a shower, driving, or just daydreaming. The most popular seem to be lighthearted clever little truths, hidden in daily life.

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[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 9 points 17 hours ago

AI LLMs have been pretty shit, but the advancement in voice, image generation, and video generation in the last two years has been unbelievable.

We went from the infamous Will Smith eating spaghetti to videos that are convincing enough to fool most people... and it only took 2-3 years to get there.

But LLMs will have a long way to go because of how they create content. It's very easy to poison LLM datasets, and they get worse learning from other generated content.

[–] utopiah@lemmy.world 5 points 23 hours ago

LOL... you did make me chuckle.

Aren't we 18months until developers get replaced by AI... for like few years now?

Of course "AI" even loosely defined progressed a lot and it is genuinely impressive (even though the actual use case for most hype, i.e. LLM and GenAI, is mostly lazier search, more efficient spam&scam personalized text or impersonation) but exponential is not sustainable. It's a marketing term to keep on fueling the hype.

That's despite so much resources, namely R&D and data centers, being poured in... and yet there is not "GPT5" or anything that most people use on a daily basis for anything "productive" except unreliable summarization or STT (which both had plenty of tools for decades).

So... yeah, it's a slow take off, as expected. shrug

[–] Pulptastic@midwest.social 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It has slowed exponentially because the models get exponentially more complicated the more you expect it to do.

[–] linearchaos@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

The exponential problem has always been there. We keep finding tricks and optimizations in hardware and software to get by it but they're only occasional.

The pruned models keep getting better so now You're seeing them running on local hardware and cell phones and crap like that.

I don't think they're out of tricks yet, but God knows when we'll see the next advance. And I don't think there's anything that'll take this current path into AGI I think that's going to be something else.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Things just don't impend like they used to!

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Nobody wants to portend anymore.

[–] neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think we might not be seeing all the advancements as they are made.

Google just showed off AI video with sound. You can use it if you subscribe to thier $250/month plan. That is quite expensive.

But if you have strong enough hardware, you can generate your own without sound.

I think that is a pretty huge advancement in the past year or so.

I think that focus is being put on optimizing these current things and making small improvements to quality.

Just give it a few years and you will not even need your webcam to be on. You could just use an AI avatar that look and sounds just like you running locally on your own computer. You could just type what you want to say or pass through audio. I think the tech to do this kind of stuff is basically there, it just needs to be refined and optimized. Computers in the coming years will offer more and more power to let you run this stuff.

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[–] moseschrute@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It has taken off exponentially. It’s exponentially annoying that’s it’s being added to literally everything

[–] krakenfury@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 day ago

Humanity may achieve an annoyance singularity within six months

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How do you know it hasn't and us just laying low? I for one welcome our benevolent and merciful machine overlord.

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Duly noted. 🤭 🤫

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

how do you grow zero exponentially

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 12 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Well, the thing is that we're hitting diminishing returns with current approaches. There's a growing suspicion that LLMs simply won't be able to bring us to AGI, but that they could be a part of or stepping stone to it. The quality of the outputs are pretty good for AI, and sometimes even just pretty good without the qualifier, but the only reason it's being used so aggressively right now is that it's being subsidized with investor money in the hopes that it will be too heavily adopted and too hard to walk away from by the time it's time to start charging full price. I'm not seeing that. I work in comp sci, I use AI coding assistants and so do my co-workers. The general consensus is that it's good for boilerplate and tests, but even that needs to be double checked and the AI gets it wrong a decent enough amount. If it actually involves real reasoning to satisfy requirements, the AI's going to shit its pants. If we were paying the real cost of these coding assistants, there is NO WAY leadership would agree to pay for those licenses.

Yeah, I don't think AGI = an advanced LLM. But I think it's very likely that a transformer style LLM will be part of some future AGI. Just like human brains have different regions that can do different tasks, an LLM is probably the language part of the "AGI brain".

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[–] AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Computers are still advancing roughly exponentially, as they have been for the last 40 years (Moore's law). AI is being carried with that and still making many occasional gains on top of that. The thing with exponential growth is that it doesn't necessarily need to feel fast. It's always growing at the same rate percentage wise, definitionally.

[–] Inucune@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

We once again congratulate software engineers for nullifying 40 years of hardware improvements.

[–] cabb@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Moore's law is kinda still in effect, depending on your definition of Moore's law. However, Dennard Scaling is not so computer performance isn't advancing like it used to.

[–] utopiah@lemmy.world 1 points 23 hours ago

Moore’s law is kinda still in effect, depending on your definition of Moore’s law.

Sounds like the goal post is moving faster than the number of transistors in an integrated circuit.

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 1 day ago (5 children)

A few years ago I remember people being amazed that prompts like "Markiplier drinking a glass of milk" could give them some blobs that looked vaguely like the thing asked for occasionally. Now there is near photorealistic video output. Same kind of deal with ability to write correct computer code and answer questions. Most of the concrete predictions/bets people made along the lines of "AI will never be able to do ______" have been lost.

What reason is there to think it's not taking off, aside from bias or dislike of what's happening? There are still flaws and limitations for what it can do, but I feel like you have to have your head in the sand to not acknowledge the crazy level of progress.

[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's absolutely taking off in some areas. But there's also an unsustainable bubble because AI of the large language model variety is being hyped like crazy for absolutely everything when there are plenty of things it's not only not ready for yet, but that it fundamentally cannot do.

You don't have to dig very deeply to find reports of companies that tried to replace significant chunks of their workforces with AI, only to find out middle managers giving ChatGPT vague commands weren't capable of replicating the work of someone who actually knows what they're doing.

That's been particularly common with technology companies that moved very quickly to replace developers, and then ended up hiring them back because developers can think about the entire project and how it fits together, while AI can't - and never will as long as the AI everyone's using is built around large language models.

Inevitably, being able to work with and use AI is going to be a job requirement in a lot of industries going forward. Software development is already changing to include a lot of work with Copilot. But any actual developer knows that you don't just deploy whatever Copilot comes up with, because - let's be blunt - it's going to be very bad code. It won't be DRY, it will be bloated, it will implement things in nonsensical ways, it will hallucinate... You use it as a starting point, and then sculpt it into shape.

It will make you faster, especially as you get good at the emerging software development technique of "programming" the AI assistant via carefully structured commands.

And there's no doubt that this speed will result in some permanent job losses eventually. But AI is still leagues away from being able to perform the joined-up thinking that allows actual human developers to come up with those structured commands in the first place, as a lot of companies that tried to do away with humans have discovered.

Every few years, something comes along that non-developers declare will replace developers. AI is the closest yet, but until it can do joined-up thinking, it's still just a pipe-dream for MBAs.

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[–] JeremyHuntQW12@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

It could do that 3 years ago.

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[–] blarghly@lemmy.world 34 points 2 days ago (13 children)

When people talk about AI taking off exponentially, usually they are talking about the AI using its intelligence to make intelligence-enhancing modifications to itself. We are very much not there yet, and need human coaching most of the way.

At the same time, no technology ever really follows a particular trend line. It advances in starts and stops with the ebbs and flows of interest, funding, novel ideas, and the discovered limits of nature. We can try to make projections - but these are very often very wrong, because the thing about the future is that it hasn't happened yet.

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[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

It has definitely plateaued.

[–] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Iirc there are mathematical reason why AI can't actually become exponentially more intelligent? There are hard limits on how much work (in the sense of information processing) can be done by a given piece of hardware and we're already pretty close to that theoretical limit. For an AI to go singulaity we would have to build it with enough initial intelligence that it could aquire both the resources and information with which to improve itself and start the exponential cycle.

[–] mxeff@feddit.org 47 points 2 days ago (110 children)

This is precisely a property of exponential growth, that it can take (seemingly) very long until it starts exploding.

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[–] nucleative@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (3 children)

What do you consider having "taken off"?

It's been integrated with just about everything or is in the works. A lot of people still don't like it, but that's not an unusual phase of tech adoption.

From where I sit I'm seeing it everywhere I look compared to last year or the year before where pretty much only the early adopters were actually using it.

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[–] netvor@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

That's only if the exponent is greater than 1.

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