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[–] svcg@lemmy.blahaj.zone 35 points 2 days ago

I, for one, would like to congratulate whoever conceived this psy-op to get conservatives to move from Texas to Russia. Inspired stuff.

[–] 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 85 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Pro tip: if you're worried about your manliness you should go to therapy not to church.

[–] bassad@jlai.lu 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Church is (almost) free therapy though, problem is that some church leaders want to use believers for their own benefit

[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Most organized religion is psychological abuse

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[–] rayyy@lemmy.world 35 points 2 days ago (3 children)

IF you can be shamed into going a Russian church to be manly, you are headed in the opposite direction from the path to manliness - you become a pussy who can only follow.

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[–] Matriks404@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I know at least few Russian-speaking people where I live (Kraków) who tried to convert me to their church. One Uber (or Bolt idk) driver, when I told him that I am interested in practicing Russian and Ukrainian wanted me to come to some church to read a Bible or something, and other time one friend of mine wanted me to come to (I think) Orthodox church to meet some women or something like that.

I think I make an error, when I tell people I am agnostic, it's like a sign for other people to try convert me, and I don't really want to argue with them.

[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 23 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So, all these "manly" men need a fluffer to make them more "manly"?

[–] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

I find the obsession with being super manly that some types have to be highly suspicious. Seems they are either very insecure or seeking manliness out of a closeted gay urge. Because it's just not the kind of thing you need to go get help with. Performant manliness is still a performance.

[–] ulterno@programming.dev 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I originally thought ~~gym~~jim and protein but...

traditions dating back centuries

So, slavery and rape?

[–] nutbutter@discuss.tchncs.de 71 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Watching gay porn is twice as manly as watching straight porn.

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 33 points 2 days ago

Nothing gayer than having sex with women.

  • various right winged influencers
[–] forwhomthecattolls@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I'm actually double straight because I was straight when I was supposedly a guy and now I'm a woman and still straight. checkmate, low T beta cucks bad to the bone guitar riff

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[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Says the man in the nun outfit

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

Can't judge by that - Rasputin wore the same outfit and he was a legendary horndog.

[–] Robust_Mirror@aussie.zone 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Can you really say you're the manliest men if you're not comfortable wearing women's clothing?

Yeah, a lot of this "manliness" sure sounds a lot like just having a great deal of things to worry about emasculating you.

[–] Zess@lemmy.world 41 points 2 days ago

If you have to be told how to be "manly" then you ~~probably~~ definitely aren't whatever the fuck you even think "manly" is.

[–] Jumpingspiderman@lemmy.world 47 points 2 days ago (8 children)

JFC if someone is this worried about their "manliness" or lack thereof, there's really no hope for them.

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[–] Taco2112@lemmy.world 110 points 3 days ago (13 children)

I feel bad for the men that get indoctrinated by this guy. Just like a lot of people that get taken in by religion, these people are looking for some understanding or change that really can only come from within but the church is promising that religion is the only way.

These men don’t understand that there is no black and white/ universal version of “manliness”. We all have to decide for ourselves what “being a man” means.

I go with a simple definition: as someone who was born a man and continues to identify as a man, my feeling is that, anything I do is “manly” because I am a man. Doesn’t matter if it’s sewing, hunting, or eating soup (which the preacher in the article seems to think is not manly)

[–] Supervisor194@lemmy.world 59 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Being a man is eating soup and being able to say "fuck you, I like soup."

[–] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 36 points 3 days ago (11 children)

And also being so confident, you don't need another man to tell you you're a big strong masculine man.

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[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 10 points 2 days ago

"Convert Theodore" looks a hell lot like the hat-tipping M'lady mister

Almost all the converts I meet have opted to home-school their offspring, partly because they believe women should prioritise their families rather than their careers.

Welp, that alone says a lot.

Father Moses says Orthodoxy is "not masculine, it is just normal", while "in the West everything has become very feminised".

Hahahaha, no. The only normal is humans wanting to form groups with like-minded people and, sometimes, making that group appear very different from another group, aka schismogenesis - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schismogenesis

Some - in America and other countries - see Russia as the last bastion of true Christianity

Eeehh, given that the orthodox christians are likely closer to the root christianity than the western christians, that is not "too wrong" to assume, I guess. Then again, the orthodox did hunt down several "heretical" christians, some of which likely were "more christian" than them.

[–] Not_mikey@slrpnk.net 59 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (9 children)

This wispy-bearded Texan is in the vanguard of a movement urging conservatives to relocate to Russia. Last August, Putin introduced fast-track shared values visa for those fleeing Western liberalism.

Oh no ... don't do that. Us lefties would hate if all our manly men left us to deal with these Haitians eating our dogs alone. That would trigger and own us so much.

[–] mgnome@lemmy.world 22 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Well, they'll probably have manlier problems to deal with since moving to Russia is leopard eating your face speedrun, with examples such as Russel Bentley or that one conservative Canadian family that sold their everything to move to Russia and got their money stolen by Russian banks.

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Imagine being deranged enough to actually take that deal, damn

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[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 days ago

Very interesting, but also very lazy reporting. They didn't ask Ukrainian-American Orthodox for example what they think. Ciril's "holy war" screetches are insane, when Ukraine is also an Orthodox country.

There are thousands upon thousands of Orthodox Christians in the US, yet the only non-Russian-aligned perspective in the whole article is this:

Elissa Bjeletich Davis, a former Protestant who now belongs to the Greek Orthodox Church in Austin, is a Sunday school teacher and has her own podcast. She says many converts belong to "the anti-woke crowd" and sometimes have strange ideas about their new faith - especially those in the Russian Church. "They see it as a military, rigid, disciplinary, masculine, authoritarian religion," Elissa says. "It's kind of funny. It's almost as if the old American Puritans and their craziness is resurfacing."

(RIP Elissa's inbox btw)

It's annoying to see the crazies monopolize the report. This is also American Orthodoxy:

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 14 points 2 days ago

He looks like he would be handy on a trip through Ravenholm.

[–] expatriado@lemmy.world 65 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

that's like 3 layers of scam: church, manliness and absurd levels

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[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 49 points 3 days ago (2 children)

15 dumbasses in East Bumblefuck: *do something*

BBC: A NEW GLOBAL TREND?!?!

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[–] pinheadednightmare@lemm.ee 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I hope they are all dumb enough to move there for it.

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[–] nokturne213@sopuli.xyz 57 points 3 days ago

it's funny how I'm the boogeyman for all these supposedly manly men.

[–] nthavoc@lemmy.today 21 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

So basically a church of assholes competing with each other to out asshole each other. Then they wonder why their kids don't talk to them and that "manliness" skips a generation. I am willing to bet these "absurdly manly" men are in the closet and over compensating.Using an iron is too feminine? Bitch if you want to be respected as a professional don't fucking show up in wrinkled ass clothes. Why do you think the army fucking irons? Because you look good in unwrinkled clothes. God dammit I am going on a rant again.

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[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 38 points 3 days ago (17 children)

Manliness has always been a scam.

Source: me having grown up in the Balkans where manliness tends to reign supreme as a life goal

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[–] termaxima@programming.dev 28 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Let them become even less dateable, so us lesbians can get all the other girls 👩‍❤️‍💋‍👩

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[–] kbal@fedia.io 41 points 3 days ago (2 children)

doggedly backed the invasion of Ukraine, calling it a Holy War

Yeah I don't really give a shit about their concept of the male gender. Apparently it involves fathering many children, so that Russia doesn't run out of soldiers for the hundred years of glorious holy war it will take to defeat NATO and save the world. If you really want to reach the ultimate heights of manliness, try wearing eye shadow, practicing embroidery, and watching Hello Kitty while remaining confidently masculine.

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[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I've heard that Russian Orthodox churches in the USA are not what they are in Russia, and are actually fine because of being removed from the hierarchy and kinda marginal, but, eh, manliness is anyway not what Christianity is generally about.

And "traditions" are no more ancient than in a Catholic church they can find or an Assyrian or an Armenian one.

Anyway, those stereotypes. Russians are very masculine to be a country whose economy mainly consists of selling oil and gas and other resources, some tech sector due to remnants of Soviet education and building nuclear stations. With prison population rivaling that of the USA. That's an "/s".

EDIT: And the article author knows about Oriental Orthodox and Eastern Orthodox being different things, but misses the clue and thinks they are variations of the same. Eastern Orthodox and Catholic are united by being, as it's sometimes called, Chalcedonean Christianity. Oriental Orthodox is all that split at that point, but not earlier.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 32 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Always fun witnessing another round of people arguing over whose church is dumber.

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