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[–] Jumpingspiderman@lemmy.world 9 points 1 hour ago

JFC if someone is this worried about their "manliness" or lack thereof, there's really no hope for them.

[–] nthavoc@lemmy.today 3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

So basically a church of assholes competing with each other to out asshole each other. Then they wonder why their kids don't talk to them and that "manliness" skips a generation. I am willing to bet these "absurdly manly" men are in the closet and over compensating.Using an iron is too feminine? Bitch if you want to be respected as a professional don't fucking show up in wrinkled ass clothes. Why do you think the army fucking irons? Because you look good in unwrinkled clothes. God dammit I am going on a rant again.

[–] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world 17 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

While all of you meme and joke and minimize the threat, a rising wave of disaffected boys has grown up under the most toxic of social environments and still NONE of you take this seriously.

When you see the world in ten years time you will kick yourselves for doing nothing to stop it now in its infancy

[–] valtia@lemmy.world 5 points 57 minutes ago* (last edited 57 minutes ago) (1 children)

Stop what? Stop it how? Suddenly make every parent in the US loving, compassionate, and effective at raising their children? Or maybe we could just fix the economy? One of those is bound to work, easy!

[–] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world 2 points 21 minutes ago (1 children)

There is no easy solution and the fact your dismissive and snarky reply is so upvoted is kind of proof that there is no fixing the situation anymore

The hard solution is to first deplatform their demagogues but since they make their media platforms ridiculous money, it isn't changing

There's also a significant possibility we simply won't be having real elections in America anymore so the chance to get progressive people in office to curb this is over

[–] Lightsong@lemmy.world 1 points 17 minutes ago

At this point, anything start rolling, it's already too late to stop it. Nothing we can do but brace for the worst.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 5 points 3 hours ago

Nothing more manly and confident than having to constantly validate your manlyness

[–] Not_mikey@slrpnk.net 28 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

This wispy-bearded Texan is in the vanguard of a movement urging conservatives to relocate to Russia. Last August, Putin introduced fast-track shared values visa for those fleeing Western liberalism.

Oh no ... don't do that. Us lefties would hate if all our manly men left us to deal with these Haitians eating our dogs alone. That would trigger and own us so much.

[–] mgnome@lemmy.world 9 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Well, they'll probably have manlier problems to deal with since moving to Russia is leopard eating your face speedrun, with examples such as Russel Bentley or that one conservative Canadian family that sold their everything to move to Russia and got their money stolen by Russian banks.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 5 points 3 hours ago

Zero sympathy. Zero.

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

c/dumbesttimeline

[–] termaxima@programming.dev 17 points 6 hours ago

Let them become even less dateable, so us lesbians can get all the other girls 👩‍❤️‍💋‍👩

[–] vivendi@programming.dev 1 points 3 hours ago
[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 35 points 8 hours ago

15 dumbasses in East Bumblefuck: *do something*

BBC: A NEW GLOBAL TREND?!?!

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 31 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Manliness has always been a scam.

Source: me having grown up in the Balkans where manliness tends to reign supreme as a life goal

[–] Laser@feddit.org 5 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

It's stupid on so many levels.

First off, it implies there is some sort or series of social masculine trait(s) that are in some way desirable. It gets even more stupid when this turns into expectations, like "you're a man, you should X".

It's kind of sad but not unsurprising that there's an industry trying to capitalize on the resulting insecurities.

I think it was a positive aspect of the MGTOW idea to reject these expectations and do your own thing.

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

I think mgtow pretty quickly became an incel movement, at least from what I saw on reddit.

[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 2 points 4 hours ago

This is a good movie, if you don't mind the blood and gore: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Northman

It follows the life story of a manly man... not something many would truly pursue for themselves even if they had the opportunity.

[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 10 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Manliness is an ideal intentionally placed out of reach. An insecurity to be exploited

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Only if your conception of masculinity is stupid. There are plenty of manly role models out there, we've just largely decided not to pay them much attention.

The manliest man I can think of: Norm Abram. His achievements:

  • Made a living wearing flannel shirts

  • Excellent beard

  • Distinguished service award from the American Academy of Ophthalmology

  • Built a sailboat

  • said "Not roman orgy, roman ogee" on national television and got away with it

[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

If you step out of line with what is considered acceptable (and The most toxic insecure men incent things to be afraid of out of nowhere) you get harshly punished. Learned this the hard way growing up trans

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Trans man or woman?

[–] Taco2112@lemmy.world 59 points 10 hours ago (4 children)

I feel bad for the men that get indoctrinated by this guy. Just like a lot of people that get taken in by religion, these people are looking for some understanding or change that really can only come from within but the church is promising that religion is the only way.

These men don’t understand that there is no black and white/ universal version of “manliness”. We all have to decide for ourselves what “being a man” means.

I go with a simple definition: as someone who was born a man and continues to identify as a man, my feeling is that, anything I do is “manly” because I am a man. Doesn’t matter if it’s sewing, hunting, or eating soup (which the preacher in the article seems to think is not manly)

[–] Supervisor194@lemmy.world 25 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Being a man is eating soup and being able to say "fuck you, I like soup."

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

I don't know if I like soup. The only soup I ever had was cambells, and it was awful. But then everybody tells me that cambells is the bottom of the barrel scum of the soup world.

So maybe I just don't like cambells.

[–] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 11 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

And also being so confident, you don't need another man to tell you you're a big strong masculine man.

[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 2 points 4 hours ago

In college a woman remarked "I don't know many men manly enough to wear a pink shirt."

[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 4 points 6 hours ago

We need feminism but for men (which is a thing that kinda already exists but we need more)

[–] Carrolade@lemmy.world 13 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Reminds me of a scene in the Lone Wolf and Cub comic I read when I was younger.

I don't remember all the details, but there's a panel where the two most dangerous samurai in all of feudal Japan are camping out before a fight, and some rando is astonished that these high bred, noble, elite warriors are cooking their own rice. One of the two rips into him about self-sufficiency and how there aren't always servants to do your cooking for you, and what kind of warrior would just starve when he has no servants around?

[–] SnarkoPolo@lemm.ee 6 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

And what does the article say? Eating soup isn't manly? WTF? I'd like to hear his rationale for that one, but I'd probably lose a couple of IQ points reading it.

[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 4 points 6 hours ago

Toxic masculinity is full of shaming men for random things that are arbitrarily defined as not manly. Nothing is more dangerous for a Man than not conforming to masculine gender norms

[–] Rocketpoweredgorilla@lemmy.ca 15 points 9 hours ago

Pretty much how I see it. Being "a man" is being comfortable with who you are and not being scared about what others think. Putting a dress on and having "Tea" with your kids during playtime is just as manly as playing football. (And looks hilarious when you're a 6 ft tall biker looking dude with a beard and hairy legs like me.)

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[–] expatriado@lemmy.world 50 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

that's like 3 layers of scam: church, manliness and absurd levels

[–] kbal@fedia.io 35 points 10 hours ago

doggedly backed the invasion of Ukraine, calling it a Holy War

Yeah I don't really give a shit about their concept of the male gender. Apparently it involves fathering many children, so that Russia doesn't run out of soldiers for the hundred years of glorious holy war it will take to defeat NATO and save the world. If you really want to reach the ultimate heights of manliness, try wearing eye shadow, practicing embroidery, and watching Hello Kitty while remaining confidently masculine.

[–] nokturne213@sopuli.xyz 44 points 11 hours ago
[–] NONE_dc@lemmy.world 23 points 10 hours ago

So fragile, so scared. They are so terrified of being perceived as lesser men that they resort to this crap. It's just that you could only feel sorry for them... if they didn't suck, that is.

[–] vimmiewimmie@lemm.ee 4 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

A younger brother of mine just baptized into an Orthodox church nearby. Is this the same thing?

[–] 52fighters@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 5 hours ago

The Russian Orthodox are in schism from most other Orthodox. You'll need to get more information to get an answer to that question.

Russian Orthodoxy was established from it's foundation as a fake religion that exists to keep political power in Moscow. This is very different from other Orthodox.

[–] BrokenGlepnir@lemmy.world 7 points 6 hours ago

There's several. I don't know if the Greek Orthodox are doing the same machoism, but they're related

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 30 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Always fun witnessing another round of people arguing over whose church is dumber.

[–] SnarkoPolo@lemm.ee 14 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

It's a hoot. These Ultra Incels think the Orthodox Church is going to hand them a submissive woman. Sounds like their new church is a sausage fest up in there.

[–] SnarkoPolo@lemm.ee 15 points 10 hours ago

His Grindr nickname is probably "FatherBottom."

[–] CatDogL0ver@lemmy.world 8 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Georgetown Texas. No wonder

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 8 points 8 hours ago

Texas, you say

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 7 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

So manly that they'll get deep inside you

[–] SnarkoPolo@lemm.ee 4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

With a manly helping hand, they beat each other's hard problems.

[–] peregrin5@lemm.ee 6 points 10 hours ago

What's more manly than never letting your dick touch a woman's estrogen filled vagina? Nothing, except maybe letting another man inject his testosterone into your anus with his dick.

[–] pdxfed@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

"But in the past year-and-a-half our congregation has tripled in size."

Still the same 2 dudes, I deliberately misleading you with that phrase and was referring to bicep circumference.

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