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[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

This is why FOSS with donation is actually a superior model.

I honestly rather download a free software and donate after I know that it’s good and I’ll know that I’ll always have access to it.

Paying for something that can be revoked (cause it’s legally license, not owned) just doesn’t sound like ownership.

[–] blarghly@lemmy.world 2 points 49 minutes ago (2 children)

Right, but the problem with FOSS is a that it usually moves slow, typically isn't very user friendly, and has no real support from devs most of the time.

[–] Trollception@sh.itjust.works 2 points 29 minutes ago

The best thing is when a private company contributes regularly to FOSS projects moving them along at a timely pace.

[–] Flipper@feddit.org 2 points 36 minutes ago

Turns out, if it's a single person in their free time it's slower. But at least if something isn't working I can fix it myself.

[–] Soapbox1858@lemm.ee 3 points 48 minutes ago

The only excuse for subscription model is when there is cloud storage/sync or server provided functions that are a core part of the software.

If I didn't rely heavily on the cloud storage and syncing part of Lightroom for editing photos seamlessly on desktop, mobile, and web, then I would already have dropped Adobe for Darktable and a pirated copy of Photoshop CS2 for when I need to print.

[–] glitchdx@lemmy.world 21 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

meanwhile, companies are killing lifetime licenses that were previously paid for.

[–] alekwithak@lemmy.world 9 points 1 hour ago

Yep I remember clearly the first time this happened to me with Splashtop Remote in like 2012. And more recently 4K video downloader. "4K video downloader is being deprecated, please upgrade to our new application, 4K video downloader" Literally only difference is my lifetime license is no longer good and I'd have to buy a subscription.

Well, too bad there are easier ways to download content and even if there wasn't you have made sure I will never get anywhere near your products ever again.

[–] RedSnt@feddit.dk 9 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Ironically this made me donate to the lemmy instance my account is on. For the cost of just 3 bags of coffee a year I raised the monthly donations by 1%. Feels good man.

[–] tomi000@lemmy.world 23 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (3 children)

Do kids these days think boomers are 20yo?

[–] alekwithak@lemmy.world 14 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

All kids think anyone older than them is a boomer. Actual boomers think all kids are millennials. Millennials can't catch a fucking break at either end.

[–] ouRKaoS@lemmy.today 1 points 27 minutes ago

Gen X is left out of the conversation, and doesn't care.

We can't catch a break ever.

Like we all started having memories of stuff and it all went down from there

[–] Signtist@lemm.ee 1 points 1 hour ago

As far as I can tell, the word "boomer" has shifted from "an out-of-touch adult from the baby boomer generation" to "an out-of touch adult."

[–] SmoothLiquidation@lemmy.world 7 points 2 hours ago

I thought it was a boomer is “older than me” and a millennial is “dem youngens”. /s

[–] Fabian@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

I myself also hate to pay for subscriptions and heavily favor to buy something only one time. But I also understand why something like software is sold as a subscription. If you take "normal", physical products like smartphones, cars or literally almost anything else, it is accepted that you have to buy a new one every few years (the time span obviously varies from product to product) and that repairs will also cost money, at least after the guarantee ends. But software is expected and required to be maintained, thus costing the developer money even after you bought it. Online features also lead to sever costs. Because of that, a subscription can be compared to paying for car repairs and maintenance. I think it would be fair if you bought a version of a product for a fixed price, which you could use indefinitely and then to take a small price to upgrade to newer versions.

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 10 points 2 hours ago

I think it would be fair if you bought a version of a product for a fixed price, which you could use indefinitely and then to take a small price to upgrade to newer versions

I mean that's exactly how it used to work. You'd buy Office 2004, you could use it forever. When the new one released you could choose to upgrade if you wanted.

Same with Adobe stuff and everything really

[–] applemao@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

I just hate it for stuff I am going to use sporadically. Like iracing. In summer I'll use it like once a month. In winter maybe like 4 times a week. But the price doesn't change. I could not use it for 3 months and then I wasted that money. I don't like that. Also, you never own anything then, which is what they want.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago
[–] marte@lemmy.eco.br 63 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

If that's a boomer complaint then hell yes I'm a fucking boomer! Fuck your subscription!

[–] Charlxmagne@lemmy.world 11 points 4 hours ago

It is definitely not a boomer complaint, man's not paying like 2 bills a month for 10 different subscriptions for the newest shit hollywood productions only for the one tv show I want to be unavailable across all of them smh 🤦‍♂️

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 6 points 2 hours ago

FOSS users pay zero times.

Though hopefully contribute in other ways, like code improvements (not necessarily to every project:-).

[–] applemao@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

Why i wont use iRacing. Sucks that it's so popular.

[–] MrJameGumb@lemmy.world 105 points 6 hours ago (5 children)

I don't see how that's a "boomer" complaint lol I'm a millennial and don't know anyone that's excited to pay monthly fees for something they already bought

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

I blame iPhone and Android apps that required developers to keep paying a $100 minimum yearly fee to keep an app in the App Store.

There were tons $1-$5 apps in the early days of the stores, but 3-4 years in they switched to either freemium subscriptions or adware (or ad ransom models). Usually as publishers bought out indie devs, if they just didn’t copy them anyway.

[–] dreamless_day@feddit.org -1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Because software needs to be maintained. Well at least most software that has a subscription model is maintained and gets regular updates. People don’t work for free, you have to pay them

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 4 points 59 minutes ago (1 children)

That's the result of a fucked business model. Many software devs came and went prior to the subscription model. Technofeudalism is not wanted by anyone but the software publishers.

[–] dreamless_day@feddit.org -2 points 50 minutes ago* (last edited 50 minutes ago)

I don’t think you can compare software from like 20 years ago to software today.

Things got way more complicated and applications require a lot more work

[–] scytale@lemm.ee 31 points 5 hours ago (5 children)

Yeah. The subscription model really only took off during GenZ.

[–] Jiggle_Physics@sh.itjust.works 18 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

not only that, but people usually use boomer, in this context, to say that the complaint is stupid, or selfish, or something

the gradual loss of ownership is a real fucking issue

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 5 points 3 hours ago

In the future, you'll own nothing and like it!

[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

And no gen-Z is happy about this model or pushing its use. It’s mostly being pushed by Gen-X and Boomer executives as a further mode of profit extraction in our rentier economic system.

[–] zout@fedia.io 4 points 2 hours ago

Sure, we'll just wait for the gen-Z executives to roll it al back then right? It'll never happen, this is a money thing, not a generation thing.

[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 7 points 4 hours ago

I’ve always blamed Adobe for the subscription mess, and that started in the early 00’s.

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[–] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 29 points 5 hours ago

Seeing a subscription actually makes my decision easy. I see it and immediately know to avoid.

[–] zephorah@lemm.ee 20 points 5 hours ago (8 children)

How is that a boomer complaint? It’s basic. Microsoft Word should be buy once for 3 computers, as it always was until subs took over.

We can’t even read the news anymore without a sub.

I like the use of the word rent for this.

[–] taladar@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 hours ago

I think it depends on the type of software. Subscriptions do make sense for software that requires regular updates, e.g. something tax related, where you need it updated with the latest regulations every year. Basically for anything that won't be useful a year from the purchase date without feature updates.

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[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 35 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

!fucksubscriptions@lemmy.world

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 22 points 5 hours ago (1 children)
[–] essell@lemmy.world 33 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

It's like you don't get the idea at all!

[–] jabathekek@sopuli.xyz 11 points 4 hours ago

Shit, they got me!

[–] Geometrinen_Gepardi@sopuli.xyz 33 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

Boomer complaint? Why can't I smoke an after dinner cigarette at the restaurant in peace without people whining at me to get up and go outside? And what is it with all this "rap music" on the radio? I'll rather take Chet Baker any day of the week.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 19 points 5 hours ago

Why don't kids just walk into the store, shake hands with a manager, and get a job immediately?

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