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[–] Bieren@lemmy.world 20 points 6 hours ago (4 children)

Not even just software. Fucking everything. They are making car options a subscription.

[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

This is my fear with dish and clothes washers manufacturers wanting to have wifi built into them. They've already gotten people used to using clothes and dish detergent in the form of little pods. I think appliance manufacturers look at printer companies and their ink prices and want a piece of that action. They want to play the same game. I'm sure Whirlpool would love it if you could only buy laundry detergent from them.

But in order to do that, they need to have their devices be internet-enabled. The printer companies figured this out. Third party ink manufacturers figure out ways to get past manufacturer lock-outs. So printers need to be internet enabled to allow patches that will disable new third party ink cartridges.

In my opinion, this is the real reason we see so many manufacturers trying to shove IoT and wifi connections into home appliances. Sure, selling your data to data brokers is a nice minor revenue stream. But the real prize is using that wifi to lock you in to buying obscenely expensive consumables for your dish washer, clothes washer, etc. Even fridges are at risk of this due to the water filters that many fridges have built in to them. Same with dryers.

The manufacturers of major appliances are pushing like crazy to connect these things to the net. Their official line is that they want this for consumer-friendly reasons. Most cynics say it's just a way to sell your data. I however think the real goal is to turn every home appliance into a vendor-locked piece of garbage that requires consumables priced like printer ink.

[–] drewcarreyfan@lemm.ee 4 points 5 hours ago

I buy things that are a one-time purchase sometimes entirely because I was given the option.

[–] Aspharr@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago

And there are people who just pay for it, which blows my mind. Companies wouldn't do it if there wasn't money to be had. So now we get nickel and dimed so these corporations can get a steady stream of income rather than providing good quality products.

Apps are really notorious for it. What used to be a 10$ app now they expect subscriptions that amount to 60$ or more a year with no real noteworthy changes in service.

Calorie counting apps, for example, have been doing the same thing for over a decade now with little change besides cosmetic upgrades and "AI".

[–] Sunflier@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Want to heat your car seats? That's a suspension. Want to use your car's radio? Another subscription. Get a higher mileage count to the gallon? Subscription.

[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

This model should be straight-up illegal on environmental grounds alone. It's particularly egregious for electric car batteries.

Some manufacturers will make models with nominally different batteries, but in reality the same batteries are used throughout. There might be a model with three different battery options; 400, 300, and 200 mile range options. But the 200 mile range one doesn't actually have a battery half the size. It has a 400 mile battery with half of its capacity locked out by software controls. That means the 200 mile range option vehicles are hauling around hundreds of pounds of extra weight for literally no reason at all. Such cars are pointlessly burning energy every mile they drive, hauling around extra battery that serves them no purpose.

This stuff should be straight-up illegal. It should not be legal to sell a vehicle with software-locked equipment. Want to sell trim levels with different features? Fine. Quit being a cheap bastard and actually build vehicles with different equipment levels. Don't build them all with the high-end options and then force those who buy the cheaper trims to burn money for the rest of that vehicle's hauling around equipment they'll never use.

[–] Sunflier@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

If only we lived in a country that didn't have exploitative plutocrats running the government.