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[–] my_hat_stinks@programming.dev 469 points 5 days ago (12 children)

I disagree with that framing, someone not buying your shit is not the same as you losing money. Inkscape saved millions for graphic designers, which is very different. Adobe was not entitled to that money, you can't lose something that was never yours.

[–] madame_gaymes@programming.dev 193 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

Subtle distinction, but actually pretty huge. I agree with you. Companies also use this to say that pirating is stealing, when they never had the business in the first place.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 46 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Exactly. I'm pirating because I can't afford to pay hundreds of dollars each month to watch all the movies and shows that I do. If I didn't have the opportunity to pirate, I still wouldn't afford it legitimately...

[–] madame_gaymes@programming.dev 20 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

It's also a great way to demo games and other software if you can afford it before you waste money on something that has no value to you. This is especially useful when you're on a tight budget.

[–] Steve@startrek.website 20 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Just put in your credit card for the 7 day trial! Totally easy to cancel, pinky promise

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[–] Vakbrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 75 points 5 days ago

"I bought a lottery ticket and didn't win. I lost 50 millions dollars!"

  • adobe
[–] bitcrafter@programming.dev 22 points 5 days ago

You are right, of course, but I personally draw a great of pleasure from imaging the CEO of Adobe screaming, "CURSE YOU MARTIN OWENS!!!"

[–] SARGE@startrek.website 21 points 5 days ago

I had exactly 0 intention of ever buying anything from Adobe.

Inkscape gave me an alternative to the high seas. And it happens to do everything I need it to, although it's way more powerful than the simple vector graphics conversions I use it for.

10/10, Adobe never lost money from me getting Inkscape. They lost the game before they knew I was a player.

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[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 66 points 4 days ago (2 children)

You don't lose money when people use a competitors service/product over yours. That money wasn't yours to lose.

[–] khaleer@sopuli.xyz 15 points 4 days ago (18 children)

Yet, the companies cry about losing money due to online piracy. At this point it's eĹştremally funny

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Tell that to all of the monopolies that have totally captured a market segment.

[–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 119 points 5 days ago (1 children)

those dollars were not adobe's to lose but users' to save

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 29 points 5 days ago

This is the heart of the matter. You can't lose what you never had.

[–] runner_g@lemmy.blahaj.zone 31 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Also shouting out Krita as a Photoshop alternative for digital painting, digital art.

https://krita.org/en/

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[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 92 points 5 days ago (15 children)

I am a Corel kind of bird myself, having used it both professionally (which is how I got started with it) and at home for a couple of decades now. I will say two things about that:

In its current version Inkscape is roughly on par with were CorelDraw was in its 4.0 state or thereabouts (which I still have a copy of, on like seventeen 3.5" floppy disks!) which sounds like damning with faint praise but it really isn't considering that Inkscape costs nothing to use.

However, one factor that I think most people don't think about is that Inkscape is currently the best software I've ever used, bar none, for ripping apart .pdf documents made by other software, for the purposes of monkeying with their contents. And that's a ten story tall flaming middle finger to Adobe, and completely obviates the need for 99.9999999% of all users to ever have to pay for the "pro" version of Adobe Acrobat or whatever they're calling it this week just to be able to made minor adjustments to a .pdf.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 25 points 5 days ago (3 children)

I had no idea Inkscape could work with PDFs like that. Thank you!

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[–] Paradachshund@lemmy.today 13 points 5 days ago (8 children)

This is good to know!

You may not know if you exclusively use Corel, but where do you think Corel stands compared to Illustrator these days?

I'm a pro graphic designer, so you can be as technical as you like.

I've been messing around with Affinity Designer a bit lately, and while it's gotten a lot better over the years (and some features have surpassed Adobe), the little things and workflow stuff is still such a step down I find it hard to want to use it still.

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[–] illumrial@lemmy.world 19 points 4 days ago

People like him are why I still have hope in tech. May the machine bless him eternally.

[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 57 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

I appreciate him very much, OSS maintainers and devs dont get enough praise. Also I dont get the intense entitlement some people have towards unpaid OSS devs and mainatiners, they think that they somehow deserve a product equal to that of a corporate offering while not offering any money or code.

[–] deaf_fish@lemm.ee 33 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

It's because they haven't thought about it.

They're so used to the paradigm. I pay money. I get product. I get support.

So when they get the product but they don't pay money, their brain short circuits and thinks they deserve some kind of support.

In a capitalistic world, communistic projects are confusing. Which is sad.

[–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

People equate “cost” with “value”. If something has no cost, it has no value. There’s an old story about computer mice that is apt. An electronics store sells computer mice. Some are expensive, some are cheap. The store has found that one specific mouse is really really reliable. Some of the more expensive mice get constant warranty returns or RMA requests. But not this one mouse. This one mouse is built well, feels good, and works great. Every single desk in the store is using one of these mice. And this specific mouse also happens to be extremely cheap. As in, one of the cheapest that the store carries.

Sales floor employees struggle to sell it, even when they personally use it every day and know it’s a superior product, because customers see the low price and assume it is a low quality product. The customers are directly equating cost with value. And so the store manager does something sort of backwards. They increase the price of the mouse, to be around the same price as the others. Suddenly, this specific mouse is flying off of the shelves. People are now seeing the high price, and assuming that means the mouse is good.

Another place you experience this is when helping your family with tech support. Every single IT worker has experienced the “you updated Chrome on my computer six months ago, and now it’s broken. You broke my computer” complaint from a tech-illiterate relative. They see a friend or relative with a computer issue, they know how to solve said issue, they try to be helpful, and it blows back on them when the computer breaks in the distant future. This is largely because the IT person didn’t charge said friend or family member for their services.

In grandma’s eyes, your tech support service were free, so it has no value. You can’t be trusted as a real IT person, because your services are free. Charging a small “friends and family discount” type of thing actually cements in their mind that you do this for a living. You literally do this professionally. Even if you’re only charging them $5 for an hour of work, when you normally get paid $50 per hour. Again, you can call it the friends and family discount if you need to. But by charging them something, all of those “you broke my computer” complaints suddenly dry up. Because now you’re not just the grandson who plays with computers; you’re a professional in a specialized trade. You know what you’re doing, so it couldn’t have been your fault that the computer broke. It’s not really a friends and family discount; it’s a “stop blaming me when you download viruses” fee.

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[–] baltakatei@sopuli.xyz 14 points 4 days ago

FYI, their Mastodon account is here.

[–] lillo@lemmy.sdf.org 25 points 5 days ago

Kudos to Mr. Owens and all Inkscape developers. Inkscape is a masterpiece.

[–] iampivot@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago

It seems just fitting that he wears a hat that you need bezier curves to draw perfectly with vector graphics!

[–] glibg@lemmy.ca 24 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Hitchhikers Guide on the bookshelf, nice.

[–] espentan@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I see Pratchett, Making Money up there, too. I like this guy.

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[–] owenfromcanada@lemmy.ca 29 points 5 days ago

Inkscape is one of my favorite applications out there. I use it almost daily, both for my day job and hobbies. Thanks Martin!

Open source software does not cause a loss of $ it causes everyone else gain.

Inkscape is goated and so is Martin, respect 🫡

[–] hitagi@ani.social 13 points 4 days ago (1 children)

He has a Samson Meteor microphone. Same as mine. He is cool in my book :D

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[–] twt@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago

The only time I used Adobe Illustrator was when it was brand new, in 1987. I may have used early versions of Photoshop, but never as my "daily driver." So I might not be the most knowledgeable about Adobe software.

But the thing I MOST resent Adobe for was buying and killing Macromedia... I really really liked Macromedia Fireworks (raster, vector, and object graphics editor). Fireworks could do a lot of the things Adobe software could for a fraction of the price AND without having to use multiple applications to get the job done.

Inkscape is remarkable, and maybe someday someone will merge some raster image object tools into it, and then it might begin to resemble the Fireworks of 20 years ago when Adobe killed it.

[–] endeavor@sopuli.xyz 7 points 4 days ago

Ive used both inskape and illustrator and inkscape is better and has been better ux wise since day 1 for me.

[–] sxan@midwest.social 13 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Inkscape is a pleasure to use; as powerful as you need, and you can use it with almost no learning curve and add power features as you need them. It's a wonderfully designed program with a well-thought out UX.

Gimp really could learn a lot about UX design from Inkscape. As much as I like Gimp, while uncommon things are possible but hard, simple things are also possible but hard.

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[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 14 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

How many of those millions went to his bank account? I'm guessing not many.

[–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 23 points 5 days ago (1 children)

he looks happy and his room looks full of fun

that's worth a million dollars if you ask me

[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 22 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (5 children)
  • bowler hat
  • face that works with a bowler hat
  • window with view of nature
  • healthy looking indoor plant
  • awesome book collection
  • sweater of medical higher education he is obviously proud about.
  • intact and healthy conscious (presumably)

This guy is rich as fuck. No wonder the billionaire class is so pissed.

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[–] S_H_K@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

I'm not a pro but do some shit from time to time. Between Inkscape and Gimp I never needed anything else for images. If only Gimp had better tools for animated gifs... still serviceable tho haven't tried the new Gimp yet.

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I've been using Inkscape for over 10 years now. I had no idea the man behind it wore a bowler hat and now I will never use another vector program again.

[–] NightShot@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

Thank you Martin and Inkscape-team!

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Thank you, Mr. Owens. From the bottom of my heart. InkScape is my favourite graphics tool.

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