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Until now this would have been a stupid question - this is my home. But we're in a strange timeline. My background is I was born in the UK, met first husband, married, got green card, that went tits up, divorced, met husband 2, found forever love, married, naturalized in 2021. Have my passport and everything.

It's my dad's birthday, and he lives in the UK. I want to go back and celebrate, but I'm nervous about reentry into the US. I naturalized during the Biden presidency, and I am a Democrat, I feel nervous that I have a target on my back. I have a home and pets here. Am I ridiculous for worrying or should I be cautious about leaving right now?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 16 minutes ago

You've still got a British passport? Consider staying out of trouble, I.e. the US.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I think it really depends on how white you are. I'm 192cm tall, born in California, white as fuck with blue eyes, so I think that I'm pretty safe. However, I've cautioned my sister who was born on Java that she really has to take precautions. She's lived here and been naturalized since she was 1 years old, but even so, she's got brown skin, so she's a target for this RACIST AS FUCK government.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 28 minutes ago (1 children)

They're arresting white people too.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 17 minutes ago

But less often.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 hours ago

Why would you come back?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

As a PRC-Born, Naturalized* US Citizen, I do not feel safe entering/exiting the US borders right now. I told my PRC-Citizen father and grandmother (who lives with us) to not do any border crossings.

*technically it's Derivative Citizenship, Green Card holders under the age of 18 automatically become a citizen if one of the parents become a citizen

If I were a cis-gender white person born in the US, I would probably feel okay crossing borders if I don't have tattos and don't have a high-profile anti-trump publicity. I would still wipe any phone before border crossings, load it up photos of my cat, and random nature photos I've taken. Zero political content on the device.

You said you naturalized during Biden's presidency, which means you've been citizen for less than 5 years. During this time period, if the government believes you are a terrorist, or a member of a "communist" or "totalitarian" party, they could revoke your citizenship. So maybe wait till 5 years + 1 day after your naturalization just to be safe.

But consider permanent emigration to UK, in case things get worse in the US (I'm not saying to do it now, but keep in mind the possibility).

Edit: So if you natualize in January 1, 2021, I'd wait till January 3, 2026, to be extra safe.

But remember, this administration is gonna try to find every legal justification they can if they really want to get you.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

My advice is if you have citizenship or a visa in another country and you can leave the USA. Run and don't look back. The USA is a place to be escaped from. Consider yourself lucky to have a place to go.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Kinda depends.

For OP, yes. UK is definitely better.

But, if your other citizenship is like Taliban-Controlled Afganistan, North Korea, El Savador, or Venezuela,or some other unstable/dictatorial country, then maybe not.

Despite the US becoming autocratic, there are still countries that are worse.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 25 minutes ago* (last edited 25 minutes ago)

They'll merrily send you to El Salvador for looking at someone funny, though. Some disgraced sheriff didn't like a gay makeup artist and claimed he was a Venezuelan gang member. He was picked up and has disappeared in the system in El Salvador somewhere.

Welcome back to the Stasi.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 hours ago

That depends what colour your skin is or if you wear any non christian headgear, symbols, etc.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Ppl are saying it's fine if you aren't brown but i still wouldn't ive read about Canadian Americans (who are white) who couldn't reenter.

While risk is much higher if you aren't white it's just not a good idea to leave for anyone if you want to return

[–] [email protected] 52 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (2 children)

This risky.

Don’t risk it. Also, try to make some contingency plans in the event they do kick you out.

Tbh I’m born and raised here, and a straight white cisgender male, and I’m laying groundwork to quickly emigrate as a contingency plan.

Edit: apparently they’re now trying to figure out how to “de-naturalize” naturalized citizens, so that’s fun.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

An actual risk assessment would look at % not single incidents

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

The post was a person with a work visa not a citizen. This is not to say that the US is the safest place to be. My US citizen cousin very recently came to live in the US and they were born and living in a different country for most of their life and they haven't had any hiccups.

I would probably not come in during Trump's rule when there are other countries but you do you.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 16 hours ago

The administration is currently figuring out how to “deport” natural-born citizens to an El Salvadoran Supermax prison that’s notorious for having horrendous conditions. All bets are off, regardless of citizenship. But it’s PARTICULARLY risky if you check any of the following boxes while also not being a natural-born citizen:

  • not white
  • not male
  • not cisgender
  • not straight
  • not evangelical Christian
  • not racist
  • not a vocal supporter of the regime

There are real and concrete reasons that so many countries have started issuing travel warnings for the US to their own citizens in the last few months.

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[–] [email protected] 83 points 23 hours ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 23 minutes ago

You do realise they've also been disappearing white people, right?

[–] [email protected] 32 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

Add queer to the list and also if you're not a Nazi...

[–] [email protected] 11 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Add "liberal" or even "critical of the president" to that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 13 hours ago

The fascist prez: FREEDOM OF SPEECH!

What he actually means:

FREEDOM TO KILL PEOPLE I DON'T LIKE!

[–] [email protected] 15 points 23 hours ago

Hey, how did you get access to the official ICE guidelines video!?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

You are now an American citizen, so you should have the rights the rest of us have. You should be fine. They haven't gotten around to threatening to denaturalize people yet. When they do, they will concentrate first on people from countries they don't like, that used old policies they have since rescinded. And they will have to use more due process than they are using on these non-citizens.

The one thing I would be cautious of, though, is the state of your cell phone. They are very thin-skinned when it comes to criticism lately, and may decide to look through your phone's social media to decide if you are insufficiently loyal. They have broad powers to do that when you re-enter the country. As a US citizen they cannot deny you entry, but they can still make your life difficult on entry. And this group doesn't exactly pay attention to laws, do they?

At minimum, you might want to shut down your cell phone before getting off the plane. Explain it by saying it is a long flight, and you wanted to save your battery for arrival. If they confiscate a phone and try to dump all its data, they are more limited if the phone has just rebooted. They would basically need the PIN to do anything. If you want to go further, you can also log out of all of your social media accounts and remove their apps before the flight, so they even if they force you to divulge the PIN they won't find your social media history.

That may all be too paranoid, but we live in stupid times.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

As a US citizen they cannot deny you entry, but they can still make your life difficult on entry.

Just to add, even if they obey every law, they can still mess with you a lot.

They can:

  • Hold you for 48 Hours withiut any charges
  • Confiscate all your belongings (and probably they will try to crack any encryption on devices)
  • Put you on a no-fly list
  • Conduct targeted surveillance on you
  • Send Pegasus malware to your new phone
  • Use cell tower triangulation, doesn't matter if its Graphene OS, it still needs to connect to cell towers if you wanna make calls or use data.
  • Randomly send agents to tail you make you feel scared, park in front of your house and constantly monitor your activity.
  • In certain scenarios, use thermal imaging to see inside your house (even though some courts have ruled against it), and it would be difficult to even prove they were illegally using thermal imaging, since its passive.

These are all legal and previous administrations could technically already do that, it's just that they usually weren't this crazy.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 17 hours ago

FWIW, I have multiple things I should go to in the USA coming up, and neither I nor my family are willing to risk it. My two (young adult) children and I have dual USA - EU country citizenship. My wife had a green card when she lived with me in NYC for over a decade, but turned it in when we moved back long ago. These facts (let alone what my posting history is like) are just too much for us. We won't risk it.

It's kind of like a plane crash: very unlikely to happen but you are equally unlikely to walk away unhurt.

[–] [email protected] 87 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Are you white?

Trump immigration raids snag U.S. citizens, including Native Americans, raising racial profiling fears

Those who are getting caught in Immigrations and Customs Enforcement raids are being targeted because of their race or skin color, according to witnesses.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/trump-immigration-raids-citizens-profiling-accusations-native-american-rcna189203

[–] [email protected] 19 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

In all fairness they seem to be detaining plenty of white women too

[–] [email protected] 1 points 22 minutes ago

And white men. They detained a German guy and dragged him all over the country.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah there’s been multiple reports of white Canadian women being detained for weeks before being let go

[–] [email protected] 1 points 35 minutes ago* (last edited 34 minutes ago)

There have also been multiple articles about administration looking for ways to denaturalize citizens. They may be looking for a victim to try it out on.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

immigration raids snag U.S. citizens, including Native Americans

Amazing. Where are they going to deport them to, the actual state their tribe were from before they were forced out of there and onto a barren reservation?

I know that they're probably deported to El Salvador because E.S. made bitcoin their national currency.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 12 hours ago

I know that they’re probably deported to El Salvador because E.S. made bitcoin their national currency.

It looks like it no longer is because it was a failure. I bet they still have a way to launder bribes through their system though

In December, 2024, El Salvador, in an agreement for a $1.4 billion loan from the IMF, agreed to reduce bitcoin purchases, removed the mandatory acceptance of Bitcoin requirement on merchants, will no longer accept tax payments with the asset, and will wind-down its involvement in the Chivo wallet.[77][78]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitcoin_in_El_Salvador#Reaction

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 day ago

Why would you want to come back? Place is a 2nd world shit hole.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

It honestly seems very unpredictable. Anecdotally the worst behaviour seems to have been at the most republican states but not exclusively.

For example the Australian who had a work visa and lived in the US for years flew in to Texas where it was arbitrarily nullified. There are plenty of stories of people crossing southern and northern borders and being detained by ICE. Thats included British, German, Australian and French cirizens that ive seen in the UK press coverage anyway.

As a US citizen you shouldnt have an issue but I'd probably travel through a major hub like JFK in New York to be safer. I wouldn't re-enter through Republican states like Florida, Texas, nor probably Washington DCs airports. Obviously travel on your US passport.

You should he OK as a US citizen but it does look like there is a breakdown in the rule of law in the US. People imagine that means riots and the police not able to keep control, but in this case its the government and government agencies doing whatever they want and the legal system unable to stop them.

I'm a UK citizen and am not intending to travel to the US - I often cone for a major conference but having seen what happened to the French scientist who had his phone searched and then was denied entry for criticising Trump I won't be risking it. I'm sure a lot of other UK and Europeans feel the same way.

Sadly the only 100% safe option for you is to not leave the country. Its madness as youre a US citizen but at this point things are still going through the courts and its not clear where this will stop.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 day ago

Very. We have a Mad King ruling.

People are being deported to foreign gulags without Due Process: which means, without a trial.

Stay away.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

update: Blue sky users are apparently receiving threatening letters using the phrase their "parole is terminated" despite being us citizens; I can't confirm anything, but I'm looking into it now.

so far naturalized citizens are not being harassed or detained.

everyone i've heard about being turned away or deported so far has a green card, visa or is in the US illegally.

it's certainly a terrible situation and a slippery slope, but as far as I'm aware naturalized citizens are not facing that treatment yet.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 day ago (18 children)

https://bsky.app/profile/nicolemicheroni.bsky.social/post/3lml5ctrmmc2u

Some personal news: the Department of Homeland Security has given me, an immigration lawyer born in Newton, Massachusetts, seven days to leave the U.S. Does anyone know if you can get Italian citizenship through great-grandparents?

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 day ago (2 children)

As a citizen you should be safe. Are you white? That makes it a little safer. Probably wouldn't hurt if you're attractive and female...

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fuck I hate this timeline

[–] [email protected] 17 points 23 hours ago

That Canadian actress was white and attractive. The German held for several days without sleep was also white and attractive (also a man in a relationship with a man, but I don’t know how likely it is that CBP could have known that).

It’s probably protective, but it’s not sufficient

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I wanna be mad at these comments but they're so true. I'm white and female, so maybe I'll be fine. But it's so fucking sad that this is the case. I'm not just worried for me, but for all the people who made this place home. A lot of minorities in that group.

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