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update: Blue sky users are apparently receiving threatening letters using the phrase their "parole is terminated" despite being us citizens; I can't confirm anything, but I'm looking into it now.
so far naturalized citizens are not being harassed or detained.
everyone i've heard about being turned away or deported so far has a green card, visa or is in the US illegally.
it's certainly a terrible situation and a slippery slope, but as far as I'm aware naturalized citizens are not facing that treatment yet.
https://bsky.app/profile/nicolemicheroni.bsky.social/post/3lml5ctrmmc2u
Italy and Ireland were like the last two countries that you could claim citizenship through great-grandparents, but I think Italy just ended it this year.
thanks for posting this, it's the first I've heard of maybe a US citizen being deported.
I'm looking into related posts to find corroboration and explanation for the term "parole" used here.
It's been happening for years. From the Washington Post:
https://archive.is/20250411190043/https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/2025/04/05/us-citizens-deported-immigration/
Thanks, I meant intentional deportations of US citizens.
Nothing says they weren’t intentional.
nothing says they were.
From what I read itsly "ended" it, but it's not confirmed permanent yet, there will be a vote 60 days after march 28 to make it permanent. Their new restrictions are pretty extreme though. I would expect the vote to not pass, but some other version of this will get passed at some point.
It's literally a fascist government, what do you expect. They were fairly moderate until Trump's election basically gave them permission to go nuts.
oh shoot I just thought they got rid of the "great" part and you can still become a citizen if you have italian grandparents, what are the new restrictions?
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/04/01/travel/italy-law-halts-citizenship-through-great-grandparents/index.html
https://www.boccadutri.com/italian-citizenship-by-descent-decree-law-36-2025/
Some resources. There's a whole new list of requirements.
got it.
as far as I'm aware, it's just the "great" part that changed. it's not so much that Italian immigration laws have become overly restrictive as they were so broad before as to proving Italian heritage.
The current Italian citizenship restrictions are still a great deal easier than most other countries.
basically, as long as you have a parent or grandparent who is an Italian citizen or became one, you can become an Italian citizen also by filling out a form.
You should read the first link
that's the article I was originally referencing and then referenced again.
did you understand that article differently than how i've summarized it?
Italian language proficiency, prior Italian residency for 3 years, those are both new as well.
I don't think language proficiency is a new requirement, but good to know, thanks.
The residency I'm pretty sure is new, it used to be 10 years for citizenship through residency.
I'm curious to see if this new law will get ratified.
thanks!
Those are both new... I've been tracking this and collecting my own documents for some time. But if you can't be bothered to read or search for yourself I'm going to stop engaging with you. Thanks for playing.
Varyk is correct, the cnn article has errors. Currently there is no language requirement in DL 36/2025, and the only residency requirement is to live there for 2 years before the birth or adoption of a child to pass citizenship on, if your parents weren't born there. DDL 1450 is a proposed amendment that, in part, would allow minor children to fulfill the 2 year residency themselves, and (I believe) if they are no longer a minor, 3 years
Here is an english translation of DL 36/2025. The actual text of the decree is near the bottom
The thread started out talking about citizenship through great grandparents, which to me sounded a whole lot like claiming citizenship through jure sanguinis. This is what the two links I posted were about. Then halfway through he started talking about residency, which, sure, probably has different requirements. But he never clarified anything or sought to source any claims, so... hard to talk to people that just hand wave and declare they're right.
I haven't looked deeply enough into it to see where cnn sourced their information as I'm not that far into my process yet to need to be concerned about it yet...
As for your link, yeah I don't see any language requirement either. Is this regarding claiming citizenship through jure sanguinis or through residency?
Gotcha, no problem, just a miscommunication :) Yes, DL 36/2025 is all about citizenship by descent, jure sanguinis. That's the new decree that has changed things recently, preventing many people from claiming citizenship. It's still possible that residency could be added as a requirement on top of parental ties, and in fact it has been for minor children beyond grandchildren.
I'll be watching how it all plays out along with you. Good luck on your journey!
Good to know, thanks for the resource and the clarification 👍
You're incorrect, residency and language fluency are not new residency requirements for Italian citizenship, although the proposals I brought up(that have not been signed into law yet) are being expanded specifically for ancestry petitions.
You can try again.
I'm guessing they intended to send this notice to one of this lawyer's clients, rather than the lawyer themself?
On the one hand, it has to be a mistake, right?
On the other, malicious harassment of an immigration lawyer with a "foreign" sounding name is exactly the sort of thing you'd expect right now.
Absolute best case scenario for this administration is that they are prone to making stupid, dangerous, embarrassing mistakes that will end up getting someone hurt or worse. And that's giving them way more benefit of the doubt than they've earned.
Or brown.
not with regard to this specific situation, since white people have been deported or turned away due to their visa status, but under this administration anyone not white should feel way more targeted than they might be under other administrations.
Yeah as much as I like to shit on Trump, citizens are not really at much risk. Maaaaybe if you have a criminal record they could try some shit, but it would be a shift for the administration
Not really at much risk... YET.
Give it another 6 months or so.