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[–] [email protected] 32 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

This symbol isn't needed for spells this long, but it's considered best practice and other wizards will make fun of me for not including it, even though it isn't needed.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 21 hours ago

Who is the artist?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (4 children)

If you’re adding code you don’t understand to a production system you should be fired

Edit: I assumed it was obvious from context that I’m referring to copy-pasting code from stack overflow or an LLM or whatever without knowing what it does but apparently that needs to be said explicitly.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Never use libraries you don’t contribute to in Production

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 hours ago

There's a huge difference between copy-pasting code you don't understand and using a library with the assumption that the library does what it says on the tin. At the very least there's a clear boundary between your code and not-your-code.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I really like to build from zero, but some things are better copied, no matter if you fully understand them or fall short. :)

For example, I'm not qualified to check if Hamilton and Euler were correct - I only do as they explained, and later double-check the output against input.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago

I didn't say never copy and paste. I'm saying when you push a commit you should understand what all the LOC in that commit do (not counting vendored dependencies). If you don't understand how something works, like crypto (not sure what Hamilton or Euler refers to in this context), ideally you would use a library. If you can't, you should still understand the code sufficiently well to be able to explain how it implements the underlying algorithm. For example if you're writing a CRC function you should be able to explain how your function implements the CRC operations, even if you don't have a clue why those operations work.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Many times the code we work on is built in abstractions we don't know about from top to bottom.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago

If you are submitting work, you should understand how the code you're submitting works. Sure, you don't have to know exactly how the code it calls works, but if you're submitting code and there's a block of code and you have no clue how that block works, that's a problem.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 20 hours ago (4 children)

So you code everything in Assembly from scratch?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

No I just read the stack overflow guy's explanation and the other small comments around and they explain it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 hours ago

Closed as duplicate

[–] [email protected] 3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I don't understand Assembly. Straight up binary only for me.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Same here. Assembly is a little too high level for me. I don't like the assembler guessing what I meant. I like telling processors exactly what to do.

Honestly, modern CISC processors are also a little high level if you think about it. I don't want the processor guessing what I meant to tell it. I like telling them exactly what to do.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago

The processor is just going to guess wrong and might occasionally waste a few cycles!

[–] [email protected] -2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Are you seriously trying to equate "I don't know which instructions this code is using" to "I copied code I don't understand"? Are you seriously trying to say that someone who doesn't know how to write x = a + b in assembly doesn't understand that code?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

No, they're pointing out that it's a little silly to expect everyone to understand each and every later of abstraction fully before deploying code.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

I said you need to understand what the code you wrote (as in, LOC that git blame will blame on you) does. Not that you need to fully understand what the code it calls does. It should be pretty obvious from context that I'm referring to copy-pasting code from stack overflow or an LLM or whatever without knowing what it does.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 14 hours ago

In what world is assembly more readable or easier to understand?

[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 day ago (11 children)

shout out to the trickster mod which is basically "what if magic is a lisp"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 hours ago

Omfg I read all of this for far to long thinking you meant casting spells with a lithp lisp. Like you might cast similarly named spells randomly. "Must be Skyrim, cool. Click! Minecraft doesn't have spells, what?"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

How does it compare to hex Casting? I Tried getting into it but it seemed a Bit weird

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

hex casting is stack-based and has lots of different blocks for doing different things. trickster is fully functional and has very few blocks, but isn't as well balanced for use with other mods. at least i think that's the case.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago

So does that mean trickster is easier to get into?

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My brother in Christ, why must you inform us of cool things and leave us with less free time? 🫠

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago
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[–] [email protected] 100 points 1 day ago (2 children)

"Oh, dude, you gotta stop using TJ's Action Rune of Changed Files. That runebook has a backdoor to one of the hells now. Didn't you see the patch notes?"

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 hours ago

Ugh, look, I get it. I know TJ's Lesser Action Rune of Changed Files that the Greater version does now, but TJ's price structure is bullshit and I'm not paying for Greater just because he refuses to "support" us users of Lesser. I don't even have a damn Portal, much less a Summoning Circle! Why are you so worried about a backdoor to the hells? Unless I connect this sigil to the weave nothing is going to come in or out. This sigil is only for monitoring the moisture content of my garden by way of a spell scroll attached. As we both know, scrolls and sigils use two different elements to communicate. One is gold ink and the other is silver ink. I have to use TJ's Action Rune of Changed Files to see if the document has changed due to moisture. The scroll cannot directly talk to my watering golem's receiving crystal.

[–] [email protected] 64 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I never update my spell book and nothing bad has ever happened.

Help. Infernal imps somehow got inside my sanctum and used my scrying orb to send rude messages to the rest of the Circle.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 day ago

You got lucky. Somebody snuck a wyrm into my codex that got all of my thralls mining for coin bits.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The manga (soon to be anime) Witch Hat Atelier's magic is kinda like this. Also it rocks so I definitely recommend it.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Pretty much most chem students doing labs.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Syntax error: Mismatched △
FATAL ERROR! DRAIN ARCANE ENTRY IMMEDIATELY!
ARCANE ENERGY COULD NOT BE DRAINED AND WILL BE DISPERSED WHEN PROCESS IS TERMINATED.
Kernel panic: Syntax error in interpreted kernel code. Spell OS 0.2.437 will now terminate.

*Firery explosion

“And that’s the most efficient way we’ve found of casting fireball. We’re still working on getting round to finding a more elegant solution.”

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago

"Thank you for playing Wing Commander"

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

🎵 Kier, chosen one, Kier.

Kier, brilliant one, Kier.

Brings the bounty to the plain through the torment, through the rains,

Progress, knowledge show no fear,

Kier, chosen one, Kier. 🎵

[–] [email protected] 5 points 22 hours ago

Was looking for that comment

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I've often wondered about who discovered arcane symbols/rituals.

Like, did some prehistoric guy just sit there drawing in the dirt until something happened?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago

My head canon is that creatures such as ghosts, demons, djinns, ... enter our mortal realm willingly from time to time and sometimes form a connection with a person, who they then teach how to summon them in times of need. This knowledge is then passed down.

So effectively otherworldly creatures are tourists who gave a local their number and now they get bothered by their greatgreatgreatgreatgrandkids.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 21 hours ago

It was just probably just some poor guy with magical thinking OCD. "If I don't repeatedly draw symbols in the dirt, my whole family will die."

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Normally I could do this ritual with a single symbol but there is no support for primordial glyphs in this arcane framework unless you rewrite the whole thing in Elder Speech.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Man this is just another great example of why I think software is essentially magic.

At the root of it, the hardware, it's magic smoke. It's all based on magic from that point up - because the layer below the one you are using "works because it does."

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

I think it depends a lot on a person's individual knowledge. If you keep studying far enough away from your main area of expertise, there'll still be some point where you stop and have to blindly accept that something "just works", but it will no longer feel like that's what your main field is based upon.

Imagine a chef. You can be an OK chef just by memorizing facts and getting a "feel" for how recipes work. Many chefs study chemistry to better understand how various cooking/baking processes work. A few might even get into the physics underlying the chemical reactions just to satisfy curiosity. But you don't need to keep going into subatomic particles to have lost the feeling that cooking is based on mysterious unknowns.

For my personal interest, I've learned about compilers, machine code, microcode and CPU design, down to transistor-based logic. Most of this isn't directly applicable to modern programming, and my knowledge still ends at a certain point, but programming itself no longer feels like it's built on a mystery..

I don't recommend that every programmer go to this extreme, but we don't have to feel that our work is based on "magic smoke" if we really don't want to.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

If writing software makes you some sort of magician then writing in assembly should surely mean you are a cleric or warlock.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I designed microcontrollers and wrote assembly for them

Now I'm just a regular software dudebro

What class do I get?

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