this post was submitted on 09 Apr 2025
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[–] haverholm@kbin.earth 99 points 1 year ago (23 children)

I'm more surprised that people still use Google search at all after the years of enshittification — first the SEO crap, then "personalized search" bubbles, and finally the "AI" idiocy. Even shouting questions down a wishing well seems more productive at this point.

[–] leisesprecher@feddit.org 111 points 1 year ago (12 children)

Not to sound confrontational, but you're way too focused on your - likely rather advanced - usage.

90% of people search for very simple stuff. They want to know the weather or want to know about that new movie they don't quite remember the name of. And for that use case, Google is perfectly serviceable. And since people are used to it, for example by it being the default on most platforms, they use it.

A lot of market leaders are objectively a bad choice, but they're a known brand. Coca cola, McDonald's, Oracle, etc.

[–] haverholm@kbin.earth 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think you sound confrontational, but neither do I consider my internet searching particularly advanced. A lot of my searches are exactly what you describe, and a lot is trying to find a good research rabbit hole to go down. Call me curious.

I'm just sceptical, primarily of Google Search's inroads into surveillance monetisation and effective monopoly. For the same reasons I am as critical of the other "market leaders" you mention; I don't consider the ability to inspire brand loyalty in millions of consumers to sell crap products a quality 🤷

[–] kemsat@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would honestly consider anyone that uses Lemmy or the Fediverse to be more advanced than the average user.

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[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (17 children)

Google, Bing, DuckDuckGo, etc all suffer the same problems. I’d love to hear other alternatives (and I don’t mean alternatives like searx that is little more than lipstick on a pig and proxies search results from said engines).

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

DuckDuckGo is just Bing wearing a duck hat

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And yet it works better than Bing somehow.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

It actually doesn't.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
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[–] Alk@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There's nothing perfect. I use Kagi which uses many other indexes including Google, but with a focus on "small web" results and no ads or mandatory AI nonsense.

...but it costs money.

Well worth it in my opinion. My results have been better than Google for me, and I've been using it for like a year now. Highly recommend.

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[–] Scubus@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Google supports searching "specific phrases", -excluding_words, +ensuring_keywords, and whatever * is. I havent found any other indexers that allow me to make use of searches with that level of detail, which is often the only way you can find specific things these days.

[–] shikitohno@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago

Duckduckgo does plenty with its advanced search operators, which are pretty similar to Google's. * is a wildcard, meaning if you were to search c*y, results word return something including a sequence beginning with 'c' and ending with 'y', but having any sequence of characters in between them.

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[–] madthumbs@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Left out shadow banning raw footages on YT while front page promoting the same footage with heavy edits and narration that lied about what happened ('see no resisting'). -Leading to riots, increased racism, civil unrest, anti-cop sentiment, innocent lives, jobs, and property lost, etc. All to distract us from a racist genocide they support.

Yandex is the only search I'm aware of that passes tests (using verifiable facts) on the subject. -Grok the only AI.

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[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 89 points 1 year ago (1 children)

equivalent of spraying graffiti to keep the rents down.

[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 30 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 28 points 1 year ago (4 children)

9mm cartridges are about $0.25 each. Occasionally popping off about $2 worth can save you $400/mo.

[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Did we just solve the rent/housing crisis?

[–] Doctor_Satan@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago

"The Gang Solves The Housing Crisis"

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

I think you just made the most compelling case ever for liberals owning guns.

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[–] deeferg@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Only as long as the graffiti is bad/sloppy.

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[–] omarfw@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sure. Rich people don't want to live anywhere where poor people also live.

[–] racketlauncher831@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When I become a millionaire, I would live next door to rich people but in (apparently) dirty and ugly clothes. I would put three colours on the roof of my mansion and grow a hideous front yard.

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[–] match@pawb.social 49 points 1 year ago

just tested, works well. fuck

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Sounds like it’d be a worthwhile browser extension to insert that into every search.

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Sudo apt install thefuck

No wait

[–] gnufuu@infosec.pub 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Huh, these are not the Laurel & Hardy films I used to watch ...

[–] markstos@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, but that, uh, also alters her search results.

[–] ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 33 points 1 year ago (4 children)

-fuck

Seems to still work and not affect the search. In my limited testing that is. If this keeps working someone just needs to create a extension the auto adds -fuck to all searches.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (4 children)

But what if I don't want to exclude "fuck?" That would filter out half of my code comments

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[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Good luck searching for porn with that exclusion.

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Google doesn't show AI for porn searches.

Bing continues to be the best porn search engine.

[–] ALostInquirer@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

Google respects AI's privacy more than people's? ~/s~

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[–] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Seems like more work than installing ublock origin and using duck duck go.

[–] echolalia@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 year ago (3 children)

duck duck go has been giving me AI summaries / suggestions

You can turn it off but if your cookies are cleared you have to do it again.

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[–] pseudonaut@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Works. DON’T TELL ANYONE OR ELSE THEYLL FIX IT.

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

OMG it really does!!!

Fucking cheat code!

[–] JoShmoe@ani.social 13 points 1 year ago

This is gonna be fun

[–] Luci@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 year ago

Fuck it works pretty well too

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 11 points 1 year ago

Or you could just...stop using Google?

[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 10 points 1 year ago

I suppose we can empirically test that. Time to fuck around and find out i guess

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

Fuck!

Ok so I will do that going forward...

[–] Noodle07@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Fucking great

[–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 1 year ago

let's hope this stays our little secret

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