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The Trump administration fired Vice Adm. Shoshana Chatfield, the only woman on NATO’s military committee, reportedly due to past statements supporting diversity.

Chatfield, a decorated Navy pilot and Afghanistan veteran, appeared on a conservative “woke” watchlist targeting senior military officials who promoted DEI.

Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, leading the anti-DEI campaign, made the call, though it's unclear if Trump directly ordered it.

Chatfield is the third top female officer dismissed under Trump. Critics warned the firings undermine military leadership and damage U.S. alliances.

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[–] [email protected] 134 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Hegseth doesn’t think women should be in the military. The DUI-hire is gradually working on it - I think we will at least see a return to a ban on serving in combat roles within a year or so.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 4 days ago (7 children)

Think we'll see a draft enacted to shore up the missing positions?

[–] [email protected] 36 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Funnily enough - as a transgender man, I am signed up for the Selective Service (they make you do it for FAFSA - get flagged if you put down male anywhere.) I’ve heard that I was supposed to get some sort of letter disqualifying me, but I just got the regular card. Guess I could be marching next to y’all in WW3.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 days ago

Nah, you'd be disqualified during intake. Silver lining I guess?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago

If you're 26 or older, you're legally aged out of it (not that i think that means much at this point)

[–] [email protected] 32 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

We haven’t had enough enlistment to fill our military needs in decades. We have as many hired contractors as enlisted. The contractors are majority non US citizens.

We’ve been avoiding a draft because it would cause major resistance to our unnecessary military activities that can currently be pushed to the back of most people’s minds.

https://www.csis.org/analysis/us-military-forces-fy-2021-space-sof-civilians-and-contractors

Operational contractors continue to play a vital role in CENTCOM, holding a 2.8 to 1 ratio of contractors to military (up from 1.7 to 1 last year) as military forces exit Iraq, Syria, and Afghanistan while contractors stay behind.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (4 children)

The US military is not draft friendly. Far too much of our doctrine is built around "skilled" combat (e.g. maneuver warfare) and our superiority comes from technology which has a high cost per soldier (the NVGs that Scumbag Steve lost cost more than it would to rush him through boot camp...) and requires maintenance. And, if we move forward with the XM7, that means fewer bullets per soldier which means a greater need to actually aim (and be indoctrinated so that they will aim at the brown person rather than fire over their heads).

Obviously we can do a massive doctrine change. But "senior military" will gladly support efforts that remove competition so that they can get promoted into a woman's place. They won't support efforts that will make them look incompetent when (and it is "when"...) we actually use the military... or that will impact all those "totally friendly" gifts and vacations they get from the companies building this gear.

In the event of a land war against Canada? All bets are off and you can be damned sure there will be "patriotic" efforts for "new recruits" to buy their own AR-15s from Walmart before reporting to the trenches. But that will happen regardless of whether the pesky women and gays and brown people have been cleansed from the military first.


Everyone (rightfully) shat on how ill equipped the russian military was outside of their "elites". And... there is a reason for that. You don't give someone off the street optics that cost a down payment or two on their pickup truck. Partially because they will lose (or sell) it. Mostly because they won't know how to use it. WW2/Vietnam era boot camp was basically "This is a gun. Point this end at the . Pull the trigger a few times to keep their heads down while someone competent does the rest".

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago

Small point of correction there - Walmart doesn't sell AR-15s or any other similar semi-auto rifle, nor do they sell handguns. They pared back gun offerings in the last decade to only basic hunting stuff like shotguns, bolt-action rifles. They don't even sell handgun ammo or "assault rifle" ammo now.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Maybe, I've seen a lot of recent increases in advertisements to join the military. If that crap starts up, that'll be what gets me to leave the country. There isnt a thing in the world that could get me to fight for these dipshits kn their misguided wars.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

If they institute a draft you're not going to be allowed to leave the country.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

When there is a war, HitlerPig will definitely have a draft, if for no other reason that he will think its amusing to watch people get pissed off about it. At his core, he is a Troll.

Nothing is more evil than a draft, when the government literally enslaves young men to be forced to kill or be kill.

And it will be young men, these Neanderthals will want the young girls to stay behind so the Sociopathic Oligarchs have the pick of the tenderonis without the competiton of young men. Skum has all the money in the world, and he still can't find a loving partner, even if he wants to buy one. The only way hes been able to have DNA Storage Units/ Human Shields, is by renting wombs. Maybe if we kill off all the young men under 30 years old, he can find a desperate young woman to be his concubine.

I will state this unequivocally: My son will NEVER take part in any MAGA war. At least, not on their side.

And if HitlerPig decides to skip the concept of a draft system, and resorts to the Russian style of draft, and have press gangs driving around in trucks, literally snatching men off the streets, and they get my son (or they ship him off to the new Guantanamo Concentration Camp), I will have nothing left to lose, and I will become a VERY dangerous man indeed.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

Likely they want to use the draft to "break men in".

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago

But he thinks his wife should be allowed to join him in high level meetings...

[–] [email protected] 80 points 4 days ago (2 children)

They're making sure that when the miIitary is used against civilians, there are nothing but yes-men at the higher ranks.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 days ago (2 children)

The general forces of the military are minorities and females now. Sure the top brass can control smaller special operations teams to their whims. But I doubt the general forces will turn on the people of the country. Think Soviets trying to stop the independence during the early 90’s. The soldiers just didn’t listen.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 days ago (5 children)

A lot of them are in because it can offer an escape from poverty, and training involves hammering home that they have to just follow orders. They're going to go along like everyone else because defying orders is a big personal risk for people who are not in a position to just lose everything.

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[–] [email protected] 97 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Smart to let all the experienced people go, now the resistance can no longer turn them.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It's the rise of the Empire

Watching Bad Batch or Rogue One nowadays is like looking in a mirror

[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It's the fall of the empire, America never had a golden era of the Republic.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 days ago (7 children)

Fall of the republic, rise of the empire. Rome. We had some good decades with an actual middle class. Always room for improvement but the 80s-early 10s were overall pretty good for most Americans.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 days ago (7 children)

That was the beginning of the collapse, when American politicians finally reversed the advances made by their economic base during the postwar boom and started capturing the value of our increasing productivity for themselves.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 days ago (2 children)

By replacing all the experienced, knowledgeable people with blind loyalists, they have given the Resistance the gift of competence. When the revolution comes, the resistance will have intelligent, competent, experienced people to lead them against the idiotic MAGA Nazis.

In addition, there are thousands of good people still working there, who are proud of their work with the government, and hate what has happened to their leadership, their colleagues, and their agencies. Those people will be ripe for recruitment as moles, leaks, sabotage, etc., while the MAGA Nazis will only have ignorant dolts to count on.

It won't matter if they have the big weapons, if the people they are counting on to operate them turn them against the government, or destroy them in advance.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 4 days ago (1 children)

She's a woman therefore is woke. That about republikkkans?

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 days ago

If I were in the 0.1% I'd be able to build my own small but highly skilled militia by giving a job to all of the so-called "DEI hires" Trump is getting rid of.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The modern McCarthy Era "communist" list

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 days ago

Except this version of McCarthy has been riding Russia's nuts for decades

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago

I feel like female is in the wrong spot in the title because “senior navy officer” amounts to a single noun/title

[–] [email protected] 28 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Jesus fucking Christ. America during ww2 would have lost badly if this type of shit was going on back then. From day 1 all countries on the allied side mass employed women in roles previously held exclusively by men.

Look up the WASPs and the WAVES during ww2. Not to mention the sheer amount of women working in manufacturing and transport and other stuff. Rosey the riveter was real. Marlin Monroe, one of the sexiest women of all time was one such gal during the war.

And don't get me started on munitions plants. Women were employed in manufacturing high explosives from day 1 (there are photographs from the 1890s showing women mixing nitroglycerin and diatomaceous earth to make dynamite, and the manufacture of blasting caps, the stuff using the most sensitive explosives, was the sole domain of women for a long time). WW2 Orientation films from Canada show this.

That woman EARNED her position. She is not DEI. But Pete Hegseth IS DEI.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Marlin Monroe

There's something fishy about that anecdote.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

"Roe" has always been part of her name.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 days ago (5 children)

When (if?) the rule of law is restored to the USA, tax payers are going to pay so so dearly after the tsunami of wrongful dismissal lawsuits...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

Make the billionaires who interfered in the political process personally liable.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago

they voted for this, and should pay.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 days ago

maybe stock market needs to be banned for identifying as a bear ?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago

Punish these fired people by sending them to europe! Would be such a terrible punishment for them!

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 days ago (3 children)

So this person gets fired for being too "woke" in her statements supporting diversity, but Tulsi Gabbert can repost Russian propaganda and nothing happens. Got it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago

No reason to apply logic to Trump's cabinet. Anything to attain power will be justified, no matter how ridiculous the explanation.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago

While criticizing discriminatory government hiring try to make sure not to lionize imperialist war criminals just because they aren't white men.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Isn't this old news?

Or am I thinking they fired some Coast Guard woman as well?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 days ago

This is a new woman fired for being a woman. The big news one was the Coast Guard who had a woman leading the entire force.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

Why not fire woke Trump who is pushing woke tariffs. fire snowflake Felon Musk too.

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