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[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 74 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

We shouldn't be entertaining a bail out at all, regardless of any social systems being funded.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

Who is "we"?

It seems like this is the usual ultra privileged people who violently control society under a fundamentally evil system.

That's not me and I doubt it's you.

[–] Triumph@fedia.io -1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

All societies are controlled by violence.

[–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I think you're missing the point, but sure Jan

[–] Triumph@fedia.io 0 points 9 hours ago

I'm still right. You can't spell "enforcement" without "force".

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 7 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Came here to said the same thing. I get what she's going for but no, there shouldn't be a bailout at all.

[–] drzoidberg@lemmy.world 16 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

If a government ever needs to bail out a company, that company should be rolled into the government as a utility or service, and its CEO/board should be released with no compensation, and barred from holding similar positions for 10 years.

The bank bailout, airline bailout, automotive bailout, mortgage bailout, etc., should have all been rolled into the federal government, or been completely shut down. If you run your business so shittily that you cannot function without a government bailout, then that business shouldn't exist.

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 6 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

You're overcomplicating things. There's no reason for a bailout in an ostensibly capitalist economy, period. I appreciate your comment but bailouts shouldn't exist at all

[–] kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

There are legitimate negative economic consequences to letting large enough businesses fail. Nationalizing them with no compensation to their executives is a better plan than golden parachutes or inaction, and it's easier to do than fully-automated luxury gay space communism.

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

Nope there aren't :) Ford, Wall Street, and Perplexity should all fail because... they failed.

That's kind of how this whole thing works and the worst kind of PPP youre advocating for is what got us in this shithole in the first place