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How to say Marx was right without saying "Marx was right".

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[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 24 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Has been for ages. It's now question of how bad, and we are still making it worse.

[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 24 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I’m sick of this WE, im not a billionaire pumping more Co2 per day with my yacht fleet than a town of people do in their life. I’m sick of being blamed for this shit, when all my conservation is undone in a minute by a corporation. I refuse to take equal blame any longer

[–] BreadOven@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Good point. I try my best, but even if like 90 % of the population tried harder, it would barely offset the billionaire companies killing our planet.

They're the problem, always has been that way.

I think it's time to stop them.

[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The best we can do for the planet is toss a few billionaires into a volcano as a sacrifice to earth

[–] BreadOven@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago
[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 3 points 3 days ago

Now that's some carbon sequestration

[–] Jason2357@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This simply isn’t correct. While the billionaires yacht fleet and jet setting make them have insane carbon footprints individually, it is their business practices that actually register in terms of contributing significant chunks of the carbon budget for humanity. Bezo’s jets and yachts pale in comparison to Amazons delivery fleet and manufacturing all that junk. It’s counterproductive to focus on their personal emissions, when it’s the interaction of their businesses, government, and consumers that are burning the earth. We have 2 levers on that problem.

[–] BreadOven@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

You're right. I was thinking more about the individuals responsible capture and refining of fossil fuels.

But the pretty ubiquitous use of Amazon delivery does greatly contribute a lot. Didn't really think about it in that aspect. Thanks for pointing that out.

[–] JargonWagon@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Well, one way in which we can help fight against climate change is by not eating meat or dairy products.

For anyone curious about the subject, there's some good science backing that up, though the links I'm providing are lazy DDG searches, so if anyone wants to do it, they can probably find better sources out there with more information.

The average cow can produce somewhere between 100-500 litres of methane a day, which is 23 times more powerful as a greenhouse gas than carbon dioxide.

Alfalfa and other grass hays is a crop that used a crazy amount of water, and it's grown primarily to feed cows.

Going vegan, or at least mostly vegan, is the way to go. Can start with going vegetarian and at least swapping out meat sources. Alternative vegan protein sources

With that being said, I do not practice what I preach. I should, though.

[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Again though, I do all these things and it doesn’t matter cause my entire life’s output of CO2 is being put out by one guy in an hour. I’m turning off lights and corporate buildings are running all the lights and AC 24/7

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 1 points 3 days ago

If the majority of people did, it actually would make a massive difference. This whole "but billionaires" and "but corporations" is just being used as an excuse to do absolutely nothing by far too many people.

All of those people doing nothing are why we are in this mess.

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The actual problem is democratic oligarchism/zionism/neocon warmongering/US colonialism. Protecting establishment is easily supported when higher priorities than human sustainability can be manufactured. The more miserable you are made, the less you care about "higher level Maslow hierarchy needs" at political level.

[–] JargonWagon@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The best way to reduce all the excess manufacturing for livestock is by not buying it their products. If it's all about ROI for them, give them a reason to reduce their manufacturing with your purchasing power.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 days ago

The best way to reduce all the excess manufacturing for livestock is by not buying it their products.

has that ever worked?

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 1 points 3 days ago

A lot of people in western countries are living unsustainable lifestyles. Yes we need to target the billionaires too, but that alone won't solve it. Also stop buying their shit. Actually, just stop buying shit in the first place as that is a large part of the problem.

[–] gabbath@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

And we're gonna increasingly train more AI, mine more crypto, open more coal mines, industrially kill more animals, fight more wars.