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This post reminds me of the only sub I miss from Reddit: r/youvotedforthat

Came here looking for this. Agreed.

Oh yeah, I was saying more broadly, but you're right.

Also, reading your reply made me realize something: this existential apocalyptic danger that they use to justify their extremism, it's both a recent emergency that will destroy society if we don't act now and an ancient Satanic plot that has existed since time immemorial.

I was just talking about the slogan. You're talking about sending a message through an action. Those are two different things that are not mutually exclusive.

That said, having burning buildings as the "message" is mutually exclusive with rallying millions of people. Personally I'd prefer the instances of vandalism remain fringe events unassociated with the movement so as not to put millions of protesters in danger any more than they already are.

Until the 80% percentile if I recall. Not at 0 but under the poverty line.

"Hands Off" is the right message. It's short, direct, punchy, combative, and doesn't give way to bs attacks from conservatives the way e.g. "defund the police" did. It's also inclusive of every group (except the elites in power of course), while hitting the "no war but class war" vibe pretty well, like it's a common struggle that we're all a part of.

Yes

Same reason they're still hung up on Hunter Biden and Hillary Clinton: the nazi grifters keep recycling the same material.

If anything, they're going further and further back, reviving fringe conspiracies, so that it seems like the plot to oppress them has continuity throughout history, even since ancient times. (Of course, the problem with that is having to skirt around the OG nazis, who did the same thing with essentially the same conspiracies.)

I heard 500k total? But that seems off by orders of magnitude. Just judging by the sheer scale. Although I do want them to be huge so I'm trying not to let confirmation bias fool me.

I want this if only just to see Vance complaining about EU expansion at their border.

No need for them to adopt the Euro though. Many EU countries are still on their original currency even now.

Don't worry, not for long.

Gotcha. Thanks for the explanation. I was also curious whether the existing EV infrastructure for Tesla is usable by other models, because I think this would be a crucial factor for mass adoption.