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submitted 15 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) by Stamets@lemmy.world to c/memes@lemmy.world
 

Edit: It will never cease to make me laugh that I get more genuinely serious discussion comments on my meme posts in /c/Memes than anywhere else. I'm not hating, I love it.

Edit 2: Chicago-Style deep dish pizza isn't pizza go fuck yourself

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[–] Mothra@mander.xyz 83 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (3 children)

I disagree with the glasses part as counterargument. Pizzas are sold by diameter in places that offer large and small - some even do medium. I also believe it would be nicer to have wider burgers instead of taller

[–] markovs_gun@lemmy.world 75 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Counterpoint - pizzas are sold by diameter, but pretty much everyone I know underestimates how diameter corresponds to actual pizza size and think a 16" pizza is twice as big as an 8" pizza instead of four times as big, which it actually is. Meanwhile, a burger patty that is twice as big as another one is actually twice as tall, while one that is wider is only about ~41% wider. Vertical dimension is more intuitive for the overall mass difference.

[–] nyctre@lemmy.world 21 points 13 hours ago (3 children)
[–] Mesophar@pawb.social 39 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

Until you start selling a 1/3 lb burger to outcompete the 1/4 lb burger, but people are "4 is more than 3!" so your marketing fails...

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 34 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

Them later advertising it as 3/9ths is pretty funny though.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 10 points 8 hours ago

"The one on the right is better because the thingy is lifting it higher and the arrow is pointing to it!" -- idiots, probably

[–] greenskye@lemm.ee 9 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Could just switch to grams. Selling by fraction is the problem not by weight itself.

[–] Mesophar@pawb.social 4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I say this as an American, but these are Americans confused by the concept of fractions. Using grams would likely terrify them more.

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 4 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

And a 1/4lb is 4 oz, which sounds too small (compared to 8-10oz steaks that some people consume). So a 5.33 or even 5.5 oz burger doesn’t sound much bigger.

[–] Redjard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 11 hours ago

Yeah most people would think 4 is more than 3! while 3! is actually 50% more than 4.

!!unexpectedfactorial@sopuli.xyz

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 18 points 13 hours ago

But a third is less than a quarter!

[–] Tower@lemm.ee 8 points 13 hours ago

Um... unfortunately, that doesn't work, either. ::facepalm::

[–] Olhonestjim@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago

Well obviously more slices = more pizza.

[–] rishado@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

Well that only works because pizza is a 2 dimensional food

[–] dxc@sh.itjust.works 19 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

Who would even eat the taller pizza? I'd find it disgusting. I'm not saying anything about the burger.

[–] NoForwardslashS@sopuli.xyz 59 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

You have just insulted everyone in Chicago.

[–] Hylactor@sopuli.xyz 41 points 15 hours ago (7 children)

I'll do it, Chicago has terrible taste in food. Deep dish is preposterous, Malort is an abomination, and despite how you feel about ketchup, relish should not look like the ooze that creates ninja turtles.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

Chicago bar pizza is a national treasure though

[–] exasperation@lemm.ee 21 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Deep dish is delicious. Lasagna is delicious. Baked ziti is delicious. Calzones are delicious.

Look, you can't go wrong with tomato sauce, cheese, dough, and optional meat. It's all delicious, and playing around with different ratios is still great.

[–] MeThisGuy@feddit.nl 6 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

on that note: stromboli is def delicious

[–] Stamets@lemmy.world 15 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Thank you. A deep dish pizza isn't a pizza. It's, at best, a fucking stew.

[–] hydrashok@sh.itjust.works 25 points 14 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Stamets@lemmy.world 8 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (7 children)

I recorded this rant because I'm bored. I fuckin hate deep dish and NY style pizza.

I don't know what kind of culinary trauma Chicago is working through but their pizza isn't pizza, it's a STEW, or at best a stew with ambitions. It's a stew with a gluten lid. I need a ladle, not a fork. I have to displace sauce like I'm fording the fucking Oregon Trail just to find the crust. It's lasagna that forgot it was Italian. It's soup gaslit into thinking it can achieve something. You don't eat that shit you survive it. You don't chew it, you contemplate your entire life while shoveling it in and wondering how something with so much molten cheese could still feel emotionally cold.

I'm in agreement with Jon when it comes to Deep-Dish pizza and how it isn't a pizza but a tomato-laden crime scene in a cast-iron pan. But he comes in so hot and screaming like he's right about how real pizza folds. No. No Jon. I ain't ever going to trust a fucking dude from New Jersey when it comes to pizza. That's just New York opinions with worse parking. It's like if Staten Island got a podcast and decided it was a food critic. These are people who look at a strip mall and say "This is where I want my Italian food experience to begin." You ever seen a pizza joint from Jersey? Half of them double as laundromats or vape shops. They serve slices so thin you could laminate one and use it as a fucking bookmark. Their idea of crust is "whatever's left after sadness finishes baking." You pick up a slice and it'll collapse faster than their economy would if you banned tanning beds.

Fucking Jon motherfucking goddamn Stewart out here talking about how reall pizza fooooolds. Oh. Does it? DOES IT JON? Real pizza folds? My money folds (jiggle jiggle). My spine folds after sleeping the wrong way. My dreams fold under the pressure of existence. That doesn't make thme LUNCH. But of course he would love this goddamn monstrosity called 'New York Style Pizza'. You would too if you grew up being told that thin floppy bread covered in oily regret was pizza. It isn't pizza. It's barely a suggestion of pizza. It's whispering the concpet of mozzarella over a saltine while screaming about the Jets.

I love Jon. I really do but I wish he would stick to tearing down Fox News and republicans because when he says NY Pizza is the real deal all I hear is "I enjoy food that is as thin, undercooked and as lacking in substance as a conservative argument." Stay with eviscerating fascists and not defending pizza that looks like it needs an intervention and a fuckin' towel.

[–] JonsJava@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

You bitch about Chicago Pizza? Fucking CHICAGO?!?

Let me introduce you to the abomination I'm trying to eliminate: Quad Cities Pizza

They are called TOPPINGS. toppings, not middleings, for the love of all things just and right.

[–] Tower@lemm.ee 8 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I make no comment about the merit of your argument either way, but hot damn you love to see the passion!

[–] Stamets@lemmy.world 5 points 12 hours ago

I've seen that Stewart clip for years and I've never been in a position where my rant against it would make sense but this shit has been prepared over the course of years.

Much like the vulcanized rubber New Yorkers insist on calling pepperoni.

[–] MyDarkestTimeline01@ani.social 7 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I'm a big fan of Detroit style. And I'm aware it's basically focaccia bread with pizza toppings on it.

[–] Stamets@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago

Detroit is what I like, actually. And it ain't focaccia, that's sicilian style pizza. Detroit is boss bread with bamf toppings on top.

[–] MelodiousFunk@slrpnk.net 6 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

You ever seen a pizza joint from Jersey? Half of them double as laundromats or vape shops.

I've been getting pizza from NJ for ~45 years. I have never seen this crossover.

Folded pizza is real, and it's delicious.

[–] Stamets@lemmy.world 7 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I was being facetious for comedy effect. My point was that they're like if Remy the Rat opened a pizzeria but was just a literal fuckin' rat.

You can keep your folded monstrosity but keep in your borders!

[–] MelodiousFunk@slrpnk.net 6 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

More for me then.

makes eye contact while folding

point droops

moment ruined

That's really the only downside.

[–] Stamets@lemmy.world 6 points 13 hours ago

eats his literal fucking brick of bread, cheese and pepperoni

Detroit style baby.

[–] dethedrus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 11 hours ago

I don't agree with your tastes in food, but I agree, fuck New Jersey.

It's great to have you back!

[–] Emptiness@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

This was the most enjoyable read I've had since I joined Lemmy! Took me back to reddit just around the Digg-exodus era. Bravo!

[–] Stamets@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

I'm preparing for a wave of downvotes from people who will praise Jon for the same rip but will give me shit for ripping apart his tarp of grease and failed dreams. I mean at least his 'pizza' folds easier than his morals. I do love the dude but he is just wrong on pizza.

Edit: Look at that, I was right lol

[–] DoGeeseSeeGod@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I loved the Chicago bit!!! Absolutely hilarious! If new york pizza isnt real pizza what is real pizza in your opinion?

[–] Stamets@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Thank you lol and Detroit-Style or bust.

[–] DoGeeseSeeGod@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

Looked up Detroit-style and I like what I am seeing! My favorite pizza place does what they call a sicilian style crust. It's thick and rectangular, with a nice spicy sauce. Fuck I want some pizza now.

But back to my point pretty similar to Detroit style from what I am seeing

[–] Stamets@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago

They're similar. Detroit style has more cheese (like a lot more) as well as the cheese usually being cheddar, blackened/carmelized sides and is a denser/chewier bread. Siccilian style pizza is closer to a sort of foccacia bread. Usually softer, mozza more often as the base cheese and has more herbs and stuff. They're very similar but also fairly different too.

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 4 points 14 hours ago
[–] milkisklim@lemm.ee 11 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

For anyone who is not from Chicago, Malort is a bitter liquor that tastes like you poured anise through a filter of mud and used motor oil.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

Malort tastes like a practical joke

[–] Yankee_Self_Loader@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago

This guy gets it. It’s fascinating being judged on what one puts on a hotdog by the dyed relish gang.

[–] callouscomic@lemm.ee 3 points 14 hours ago

Unsurprising from the same people who light train tracks on fire and lean out on glass 400 stories in the air for a thrill.

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 4 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Okay, but to be fair, while it is delicious, it also is not "pizza" (insert bit from Jon Stewart:-).

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 13 points 14 hours ago (1 children)
[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 5 points 14 hours ago
[–] MrFinnbean@lemmy.world 9 points 13 hours ago

Deep pan pizza is pretty good.

[–] Damage@feddit.it 3 points 11 hours ago

Lol you know nothing about pizza. There's pizza al trancio, pizza al tegamino, generic pizza alta, pizza doppia pasta (double dough), so on...

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