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I'm ok with shuttering the NSA. It was just a domestic spying program from the jump. It never should have been allowed to exist. All that reactionary authoritarian post-9/11 bullshit.
The NSA was founded in the early 50's not post 9/11.
I’m fairly certain that they were not suggesting the NSA was created post 9/11, but rather that they got worse (especially with domestic spying) since 9/11.
More disinformation from .ml, strange...
Depending on how you want to frame it - the wiki article says 1917.
Somehow I don’t think shuttering the NSA at the dawn of quantum encryption era is a wise move for American interests, domestic or abroad.
You are under the mistaken impression that I give a fuck about "America's interests"
I hate this fucking place. And I'm glad I get to live long enough to see it fall. We'll be irrelevant in a few years. Like post-brexit England.
Can't trust us on any timetable longer than 4 years. The whole world rightfully hates us for nearly a century of warmongering and aggression. And that was before Chump's first term. His lunacy has just been nails in the coffin.
Some of us are old enough to remember 9/11 and know that giving up on "American interests" in the way they are will mean the violent deaths of thousands of innocent people.
You can be mad at our government, but maybe you should think about your fellow humans.
Earth Science. 2nd period. 9th grade.
Don't talk about 9/11 to me removed. I remember it all. The day of and all the authoritarian overreach and idiot racism afterwards. "Nothing to hide, nothing to fear" on signs at fucking Walmart. Sihks being murdered in the street by ignorant fuckwits. All of it.
The US is currently complicit on the genocide of hundreds of thousands of people in Gaza (counting before Oct 7th, and counting deaths to malnutrition and illness too). Anyway, thousands of innocents die in the US from police violence anyway, you just don't care because they're mostly not white.
I am aware.
What's your fucking point? We should cripple our defense and intelligence agencies because cops kill people?
My point is maybe stop murdering your own people and people in other countries first, and then worry about "Gyna and Rusha"
It's whataboutism.
You brought up the american interests, not me. the american interests ARE murder. The world order would be better off without them
American defensive interests. Domestic.
You know, protecting our infrastructure from attack? Cybersecurity?
Wait a minute. Who are you referring to about "giving up on Americam interests"?
After the disbandment of the U.S. Armycryptographic section of military intelligence known as MI-8, the U.S. government created the Cipher Bureau, also known as Black Chamber, in 1919. The Black Chamber was the United States' first peacetime cryptanalyticorganization.[25] Jointly funded by the Army and the State Department, the Cipher Bureau was disguised as a New York City commercial codecompany; it produced and sold such codes for business use. Its true mission, however, was to break the communications (chiefly diplomatic) of other nations. At the Washington Naval Conference, it aided American negotiators by providing them with the decrypted traffic of many of the conference delegations, including the Japanese. The Black Chamber successfully persuaded Western Union, the largest U.S. telegram company at the time, as well as several other communications companies, to illegally give the Black Chamber access to cable traffic of foreign embassies and consulates.[26] Soon, these companies publicly discontinued their collaboration. Despite the Chamber's initial successes, it was shut down in 1929 by U.S. Secretary of State Henry L. Stimson, who defended his decision by stating, "Gentlemen do not read each other's mail."[27]
Stimson sounds like a smart man.
Really? It's smart to worry about appearing gentlemanly while every other nation has spy agencies still doing all that fucked up bullshit?
Stimson is right, gentlemen do not read each other’s mail. But the world is full of men who would fuck Stimson’s wife, not full of gentlemen.
You sound like you check your wife's texts.
it's not being shuttered; it's being refactored/redirected.