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[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 6 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

They output responses that read like fact checks, and link things that are semantically similar to their output.

LLMs don't understand concepts like "fact" and "source" though, so it's a stretch to say they "do fact checks" and "provide online sources".

Always remember, LLMs don't actually understand anything other than what order words typically go in. They're really good at it, sure, but don't let that trick you into thinking they have any deeper understanding than that.

[–] nieminen@lemmy.world 4 points 17 hours ago

I've tried on several occasions to try and explain this to people, and it's like they WANT it to be a sentient thing, and refuse all evidence to the otherwise.

[–] dreamless_day@feddit.org -2 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (2 children)

They output responses that read like fact checks, and link things that are semantically similar to their output.

So basically they do what humans do. What exactly qualifies as deeper understanding to you?

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 5 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Being able to say "I don't know" rather than making shit up to fill in what it doesn't know. That would be a good start.

[–] dreamless_day@feddit.org -3 points 14 hours ago

They do say that. I’ve seen Claude realise some programming package must be internal / non public and it therefore can’t provide any information on that.

[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

It's nothing more than surface level though. Their "knowledge" is limited to whatever is present in their training data, and any claims it makes outside of that are manufactured based on statistics and it's knowledge of word order, not actual understanding of actual facts.

Just because it gets it right sometimes doesn't mean it knows it's right. Because, again, the only thing LLMs actually understand is word order.

[–] dreamless_day@feddit.org -1 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

No it’s not limited to their current training data. Like I said, they can search the internet, get information from websites or available studies, summarize and use that in their answers.

Just because it gets it right sometimes doesn’t mean it knows it’s right.

Again, how do you know?

[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

how do you know?

Because I've studied LLMs and the underlying concepts they're based on.

[–] plyth@feddit.org -5 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

LLMs don’t understand concepts like “fact” and “source” though

Do you?

[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)
[–] plyth@feddit.org 1 points 14 hours ago

How do you know that you don't just guess words, too?