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Isn’t… literally anything but Spotify better? There are dozens of streaming services, many of them great, and websites to export your playlists.
I don’t understand why it’s so difficult to unsubscribe.
FWIW, I do believe there are Spotify-exclusive artists and Spotify-first releases.
But, Qobuz and Tidal both pay artists significantly better than Spotify; I recommend Qobuz. YT Music might be slightly better than Spotify for now, but Google is taking all the enshittified parts of Spotify and trying to do the same things to YT Music as fast as possible.
Yeah, YT Music is even worse because of the monopolist concern. If they replace Spotify, they basically own the entire music world. Artist literally could not reject YT Music without throwing their career in the toilet (via being absent from all of YouTube, and undiscoverable on what's left of the web).
Anyway, I was also thinking of Pandora. But there are tons of good music streaming services, big and small.
I just exported my playlists as csvs and have switched to VLC with downloaded music. It has playlists and works with both my Android Auto and my Cardo for my motorcycle helmet. Spotify has been cancelled.
If you don't mind me asking, when I have tried using VLC with music, there seems to be like 1-3 seconds delay between songs which is a deal-breaker for me when I'm listening for whole albums. Is there a way to work around this, or do you just not have this issue at all?
Haven't had the issue at all, though I'm using it on Android, not PC, so not sure if that makes a difference.
I also have this, with videos too and on pc, android and ios...
You’d be surprised at how addicted the kids are to their brain rot. Look at how much hate YouTube gets, and yet- they’re more profitable than ever.
Stockholm Syndrome of the modern tech world. And it gets so much worse from here.
May be hard to grasp for someone on lemmy, but some people have a social life
Ah yes, who hasn't heard about the social life on spotify
Sounds like you don't get invited to parties, or you'd know what a Spotify jam is
Don't need it. Just built my own.
Yeah no, that's not how that works. You can use any other streaming service for that as well. It's not inherent to the app, thus not a social life IN Spotify, but a social use OF it. My parties are very fine without Spotify ;)
It sounds like you only get invited to some very weird parties and that you're also dumb for not understanding how it works.
Well done doe outing yourself for Spotify out of all things.
Because then I lose all my playlists
No you dont, every streamer from spotify to apple music to qobuz and deezer allow for a full import. I switched to apple music and it pulled everything.
It is a worse service though which says a lot, spotify does suck but AM has a terrible and boring UI and UX
My wife and I ditched streaming for just owning music through bandcamp or CD. We've exported her Spotify playlists. If anybody has a link to a tool for generating local playlists from exported Spotify JSONs (for tracks you own, and a list of tracks you need to complete them), I'm all ears.
I'd try to write one in PowerShell, only to lose interest halfway through the project, but I don't have Spotify, sorry!
I actually prefer the Apple music interface. Easier to navigate, and their queuing system isn't horrific. Having play next be different from add to queue is essential. Spotify's "add to queue" feature playing what you add next instead of the album you started playing was infuriating.
In Spotify, add to queue adds to the end of the queue for me. But the queue is always ahead of whatever you were previously listening to. I prefer it to be this way, for me. The queue is the additional songs I want to listen to, ahead of the main thing ive selected, which I eventually want to return to.
When I want to listen to first this, then that, then that, etc., I "add to playlist" instead of add to queue.
Now, if I do have a queue already but I want to select a new song to jump to the front, I do have to go into the queue and move the song I want next to the next spot, so I'd appreciate a play next button also.
In apple music, does play next always become the next song, and pushes the other "play nexts" further back? And does add to queue add to the very end, or is the queue a special list in front of your main playback like in Spotify?
Yes exactly. Apple Music play next puts the song or album next always and add to queue to the end always. So the way you prefer is possible with play next, and how I prefer to queue after albums is possible with add to queue. It makes it much easier for DJing on the fly too when you find a song that would be perfect next. I missed this feature from Google Play Music for years while I used Spotify in its place once Google shut it down and folded into yt music.
It is still not to hard to DJ on the fly, but it does take a few more taps to move a song from the back of the queue to the top. IMO it encourages you to organize the play next queue every time you are adding a song though which is nice. A lot of times when I'm on aux I end up removing a bunch of songs from the queue because the vibe has changed since I added them, but if I leave it alone for awhile, it gets back to my playlist on its own.
I think in apple music I'd miss the ability to add to the end of the "play next" queue but ahead of the playlist, but I would like the play next button!
Oh interesting. Except I hate apple and never heard of the others
Qobuz is awesome, still growing though.
It's so weird that you just have decided that's the case and there's absolutely nothing that's available to help or do anything about it. Even if it wasn't a thing most services already have and is super easy, you should realise it's something others need and there are third party tools available.
And even if that wasn't the case you could literally just take screenshots or write them down and manually recreate them.
It's just mind boggling to try to understand how and why you're this willfully ignorant.
Here, this will hopefully put your mind at rest:
https://open.spotify.com/track/43x8gg4AnsyCO5pWmWed1J
when i switched from spotify to Qobuz several months ago they gave me access to a third party playlist conversion site https://soundiiz.com/ with premium features free for the first month of my subscription. Conversion of playlists and liked songs was easy and done within minutes of signing up for Qobuz. I can’t recommend moving off spotify enough; Qobuz won my pick because how they pay artists (seemingly) the highest rate per stream.
Same, worked great!
However, a significant number of songs didn't exist on Qobuz—including my favorite song at the time. Sadge
yea there’s still honestly some downsides to Qobuz, including:
Actually, there is, but it's only visible on the mobile apps, and not on the website. It's called "DailyQ" and there's also a "WeeklyQ". You can start it on your phone, and once it is your play queue, the web app should pick it up almost immediately.
It used to be on the web app too, but in some "minor" redesign it dropped out of the "For You" section, and I can't even find it when I search from the browser app.
I'm also disappointed in the auto-play. Both YT Music and Tidal seemed to stay much more "on theme" and I could start from one album or artist's radio and listen for several hours on auto-play. With Qobuz auto play, it's usually migrated away from what I was wanting within 4 tracks.
My adjustment is to find "shows" like ASoT (A State of Trance) and ABGT (Above & Beyond: Group Therapy) and queue them up to get more than an album's worth of songs without having to fiddle with a playlist. I wish FYH (Find Your Harmony) with Andrew Rayel was on Qobuz; I got really into that the last 2 months I was on Tidal.
You can transfer your playlists to any other streaming service. It's super easy to do.