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AI, in this case, refers to LLMs, GPT technology, and anything listed as "AI" meant to increase market valuations.

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[–] jaredwhite@humansare.social 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

What mental gymnastics? I've already installed EVi on my dev VM, seems to work fine. Problem solved, as far as I'm concerned, and I'm glad to lend my public voice in support of a slop-free fork.

[–] x1gma@lemmy.world 30 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Of course it works fucking fine if it's a hard fork of a stable state.

What mental gymnastics? The ones you're doing right now. You have not answered a single question from my comment. And what "problem" did you solve exactly? Has there been any issue that has come up because of the acceptance of AI in vim? What kind of "slop" is actually there that makes vim problematic for you?

People vibe coding random bullshit ideas because they now can, do indeed produce slop. A bunch of highly experienced devs working on a successful project for years using tools that are at their disposal properly is not slop. You're lending your public voice to a split of the community and of the project for made up bullshit reasons based on no objective proof but claims of slop and out of principle.

I'd trust the original vim maintainers to decide what's a good or bad pull, instead of a bunch of random people who simply hard forked for literally no reason.

[–] Ajen@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

slop-free fork

Based on what, exactly? I work with real people who write very sloppy code. If you're trying to make a statement by switching away from vim, why not go to emacs, nano, or sublime?

The mental gymnastics is trusting a completely unknown person more than an LLM. LLMs are about as trustworthy and competent as the average person. In my book, that puts them far below reputable developers (like Moolenaar), but far above complete randos like the EVi dev. At least the LLM is somewhat predictable, but people can be crazy.

[–] jaredwhite@humansare.social -4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Wow, that's quite an accusation against the lead maintainer of EVi, and furthermore you seem to be in the wrong forum because this one is called Fuck AI. So last I checked it's perfectly alright to say fuck AI and also fuck the LLMs you've placed such unwarranted confidence in.

[–] kurwa@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"maintainer" lol hold on lemme fork vim so I can become a maintainer as well.

[–] jaredwhite@humansare.social -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm not sure what you're lol'ing about. This is literally how open source software works. People can fork projects if they don't like something about how the project is run.

[–] kurwa@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Because starting a fork and maintaining a fork are 2 different things. We'll see where this ends up, most likely forgotten.

[–] Ajen@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago

I'm accusing them of... not being someone I'm familiar with? Someone I don't implicitly trust? If that's all, the same applies to pretty much everyone else on the internet, including you.

Fuck AI, and fuck LLMs. Does that help?

But also: fuck scammers, hackers, and thieves. I don't know the EVi dev and have no reason to trust them.