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Since this wasn't apparent the last time I asked... no, I'm actually not a US citizen or green card holder (permanent resident). Just happened to be in this country for a long time due to career reasons.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago

If you have the money to leave. Buy a couple people on the street loaves of bread or a sleeping bag or something.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Get an FBI background check, and get it apostilled. Easy to do from your local post office in the US, difficult and expensive to do outside the us, and you will need it for many things you might want to do in other countries

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Why would you need an FBI background check outside of the US?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

you need it if you apply for citizenship in some countries. they'll ask for full criminal records of all the countries you've lived in.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Actually the only time I've ever needed one is outside of the country. You need a police report from anywhere you lived for more than six months to apply for residencies, get teaching jobs, etc etc. the only authority in the US that can do this and provide a report acceptable outside the country is the FBI.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

This is a pretty important step!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago

Borrow a lot of money and then declare bankruptcy. If you're feeling generous, buy up people's medical debt for pennies on the dollar.

[–] [email protected] 98 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Buy some non US-based cloud storage and copy all your sensitive data to it, and delete said data from personal devices before leaving the country, so you can safely allow customs access to devices if required.

Retrieve data from the cloud when you arrive in the destination country.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 days ago (2 children)

You don't go through US customs to leave the country.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 days ago
[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

This is true, however you can still be targeted for extra checks by both customs and immigration if they have a reason to suspect you, even when departing the US. Both CBP and ICE have access to departing passenger lists.

For example you are required to declare larger sums of cash being carried out of the country (over $10k). You are supposed to go to customs and fill out a form, but many people do not know this, often legal immigrant workers taking cash back to their home countries. CBP uses dogs trained to smell cash and patrols departure lounges in airports, and if they pick you out, you can be searched, and any undeclared cash will simply be seized if found.

It's easy to imagine with the current administration they could start targeting people based on social media posts or some kind of previously compiled political profile or "enemies" list or whatever, if they aren't already.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago

Take sometime to learn about what you will do with your 401k if have one.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yosemite

Grand Canyon

Yellowstone

Avenue of the Giants


Add to this list any national parks you were thinking about visiting. After this administration, they may not be around anymore.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

I'm just imagining them filling up Grand Canyon just because.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 days ago

Take me with?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So many graves to piss on, who has that kind of time.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 43 points 3 days ago (12 children)

Get a few public library cards. Then abroad you can use it to borrow ebooks and audiobooks for free.

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[–] [email protected] 70 points 3 days ago (12 children)
  1. consider keeping your US phone number until all banking stuff is done since many banks do 2fa and this can be a giant pain after moving. Try to switch to an app if possible. Many providers also disallow known VoIP numbers.
  2. driving license was another one mentioned. Having it not expire before you can transfer it is preferable (assuming the target country allows transfer. Japan didn't until after two years after I got here and my license expired so I had to start from zero despite driving for 15+ years in the US). You may need to get notarized driving records which is also easier before you leave.
  3. go through and change/cancel anything with an address on file -- can be much easier from within the US. I went through the past year's bank records to find anything sneaky that doesn't renew monthly. If you have things that only renew every N years, don't forget to cancel or update those (domain names, for instance).
  4. Make sure all city, municipal, county, state, and federal tax stuff will be OK to do after leaving (sometimes, some prep is needed)
  5. If you have any retirement plans like 401ks, IRAs, etc. see about rolling them over or whatever
  6. maybe do something with social security with regard to your target country if an agreement is in place, particularly if you didn't work long enough to claim it. You can get US SS overseas in the vast majority of countries, but there are also certain provisions where you wouldn't or it would be reduced based on what you have in the target country.
  7. Freeze credit reports at the agencies as others mentioned
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[–] [email protected] 46 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Open as many credit cards as you can and spend all the money and don't worry about paying it back it's all good

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 days ago (5 children)

I mean the banks most likely gonna carsh in a few years anyway.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 days ago

Take me with you!!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Make sure your last permanent address is where you wanna be voting. Absentee ballots will all be for whichever district you lived in last.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Don't think they can vote if they're not a citizen, no?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

oh right missed that part. well, still relevant for other readers

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 days ago (2 children)

First, get a [removed by mod], make sure it's [removed by mod], then [removed by mod] right in the [removed by mod]

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Close the door firmly after you leave.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

So others can't get out? So others still can't come in? So we don't let out all the AC?

Find out next time on: Puzzling Commentary!™

this has been a Desilu presentation.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

Turn the lights out

[–] [email protected] 124 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Visit some national parks if you can (while they still exist).

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[–] [email protected] 113 points 3 days ago (16 children)

Visit some of the National Parks, aka America's best idea.

Some amazing ones (they're all amazing, tbh) in no particular order:

  • Yosemite
  • Arches / Canyonlands (close to each other)
  • Yellowstone
  • Grand Tetons
  • Glacier
  • Denali
  • Olympic
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[–] [email protected] 40 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Yes. But im not allowed to say it. But you most definitely should

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

drop kick B Shapiro due north

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

Shoot a gun

[–] [email protected] 49 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Freeze your credit profiles

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 3 days ago (20 children)

Obviously this is entirely dependent on where you're moving to, but I struggled to find the following when living abroad:

  • good (American-style) pizza
  • good Mexican food
  • good BBQ
  • certain ice cream flavors (like cherries jubilee/cherry garcia)
  • wide open spaces completely devoid of people
  • large-group events of a boisterous and goofy nature
  • certain types of museums/educational facilities (such as good zoos/wildlife rehab open to the public and interactive science museums)
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[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Go to a country which is better than the US. So skip North Korea, Somalia, Palestine. Then you're good.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Currently in the same boat, though I'm a citizen

  1. Figure out your car and drivers license stuff. Some countries have an agreement that lets you swap a US license for theirs.

  2. Mail forwarding. Either forward your mail to someone you trust or pay for an international forwarding service. You're still gonna be getting mail afterwards, like credit card renewals.

  3. You'll likely have to do the same for finances

  4. Go through everything you own and trim down. Whatever you don't get rid of, you'll have to deal with customs.

And finally, get a lawyer. No seriously. I know they're expensive but you don't want to fuck around with emigrating on your own. You're gonna have pleeeenty of questions for them

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago

Vandalise something

[–] [email protected] 30 points 3 days ago

Sorry it came to this. We sane few who remain will miss you; we will undoubtedly be worse for losing the diversity of thought (and snarky humor) expats like you bring.

The best advice in the thread so far was to freeze your credit. And I'd add: don't assume you'll never want to come back just because your current self doesn't forsee it. For your own sake, don't burn bridges out of spite.

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