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Firefox based European browser alternatives (lemmy.world)
submitted 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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Hi im looking for a european alternative for my browser. I understand that basically all browser are either chromium or Firefox based. I heard mozilla is also going through their own enshittificafion so im looking for a european alternatieve

I would probably still prefer a Firefox based browser over a chromium based one, because โ€ฆ you knowโ€ฆ Google.

Ive find librewolf to be the only real alternative but also heard good things about Zen Browser. But for The life of me, I cannot find where โ€˜The zen browser teamโ€™ Company is based or operaties from.

Does any one know this? Any other tips or suggestions are also welcome.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 26 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

My personal preference is Librewolf. Not sure about Zen, hopefully someone else will jump in

[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago

Thanks, ill start testing in out!

[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago

Seconded for Librewolf

[โ€“] [email protected] 15 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Waterfox is one option. its UK based. I find it a little faster than librefox out of the. I use the container tabs extensively for my IT work juggling dozens of customer login details and profiles.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

+1 for Waterfox

[โ€“] [email protected] 15 points 3 weeks ago

Have a look at Mullvad browser made by a Swedish company.

[โ€“] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I haven't been able to confirm precisely, but the Midori browser appears to be from Spain or at least Europe. Their website only comes in English/Espaรฑol and the only events they have listed as attending have been in Germany. It's Gecko-based, so it's "Firefox-ish". It also takes Firefox add-ins, which is nice.

I've been using it for a couple weeks now and it's been working fine. Spotify hiccups on it, but that's the only site I go to regularly that doesn't like it.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

Glad to see Midori is still active. I used it for a time 15 years ago and really liked it. Not sure about Astian, but I might have to take a look for myself soon.

[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

i think vivaldi and ecosia browsers are also european

[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago

Vivaldi is chromium-based (not FF-based) and it is European ;)

[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Just my 2 cents as a web developer.. I don't have any reason to quit Firefox (or Thunderbird). Yes the hole communication about PPA was a disaster and opt out is not ideal, but on the other hand the Gecko engine is so important for the open web. Without Mozilla it will surely die soon. So we end up with Blink and Webkit, both controlled by US big tech companies.

So, is it really such a good idea to penalize Mozilla in the long term? I don't think so.

If PPA really is unacceptable for you, opt out. At least its a good idea to read about this standard and then make a decision.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

I'm not sure if their PPA is actually that bad. I hear that some people say that its 'the final straw' in a slippery slope, but must admit that i'm not so sure if its really that bad.

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

ZenBrowser, LibreWolf, Mullvad Browser

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I use Startpage, a dutch alternative. Pretty basic but solid browsing.

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

at least partially owned by an American advertising company.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Thank you.. Will start searching for beter alternative ...

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Qwant or look for a Europe hosted SearXNG instance