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It's a win win, one less dirty liberal and I have funds to start over somewhere else.

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[–] yukichigai@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Ironically enough, you actually have to pay the US Government to renounce your citizenship. The base fee is $2,350, but the application process is so lengthy and complex the total cost can run up into the $20k range. Oh, and you're still obligated to pay taxes and subject to the draft.

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

TAX & MILITARY OBLIGATIONS
Persons who wish to take the oath of renunciation under INA 349(a)(5) or who are requesting a Certificate of Loss of Nationality under INA 349(a)(1)-(4) should be aware that if the Department issues of a Certificate of Loss of Nationality in the person’s name (reflecting the official determination of loss of U.S. nationality) the former U.S. citizen’s U.S. tax or military service obligations may remain unchanged (contact the Internal Revenue Service or U.S. Selective Service for more information).

L M F A O

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sure that's supposed to mean that they don't assess any new liabilities or obligations, but you can't get out of anything they've already assessed by relinquishing citizenship.

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Yeah, most likely. Although it does sound as if the ol' ball & chain could be attached indefinitely on first read. I imagined sliding something to that effect in a joint contract and have my ex-roommate come in to do my laundry every week after leaving according to the vague print. lol

[–] Shezzagrad@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Why is it Americans still need to get taxed and drafted even outside their home nation. Nobody else does that

[–] yukichigai@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

For taxes: initially it was because business owners were renouncing their citizenship as a way to avoid income and capital gains taxes, as well as estate taxes. Once that was done though then the feds realized they could squeeze everyone.

For the draft: during the Vietnam War people would flee to other countries (usually Canada) and renounce their US citizenship, even if they didn't obtain citizenship elsewhere. Becoming a stateless person was (correctly) seen as less of a death sentence than being sent to Vietnam.

[–] frightful_hobgoblin@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That $5 million isn't for you

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] frightful_hobgoblin@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Ok, I will pass this on to them.

Thank you. Oh, tell trump I like his... that time he was in the truck. You know, talk me up.

[–] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Tell him I'll sell mine $3m.

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Fine. I'll only take $4m and I'll give you $1m. So greedy.

[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Wish granted. Someone bought your citizenship. You have 30 minutes to vacate the country.

Funds unfortunately were funneled into Trump ~~slush fund~~ presidential library fund so you won't get a penny. Sorry about that

[–] Dorkyd68@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Doubt. If anyone is gonna profit off of his half baked idea then it'll be him, no one else

[–] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

This is unironically something I would consider. I would sell me and my family’s citizenship for 20 mil and go live either in Mexico or Spain. I have family in both of those so it would be nice to see them more often.

Unfortunately we can't because we are the product. Exploitable people.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Consider? That shits a done fucking deal for me if it's on the table

[–] agitated_judge@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Catch is "somewhere else" wants 6 million to make you a citizen.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 2 points 1 month ago

Sweet! I'm gonna have 11 million bucks!

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Mbourgon@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Tree fitty? Damn you Loch Ness monster!

[–] Wilco@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

My wife and I wondered why they just don't offer people a million per household member to leave the country. Maybe help with citizenship paperwork to other countries.

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I would sell mine if I can get EU citizenship.

Otherwise I'd be stuck in some airport and that ain't fun

[–] kambusha@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Several EU countries feature golden visas. Portugal, Malta, for example. As long as you live there for a minimum amount of time.

https://www.goldenvisas.com/malta

[–] starlinguk@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

The UK will give you free citizenship if you're considered very useful. A friend of mine is an epidemiologist, and they almost literally threw British citizenship at her. She said that nobody at the group ceremony spoke English.

[–] Pitchelos@lemm.ee 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What's the lowest you can go on this American Citizenship ?

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Lowest ill go is 2 milly. 1 mill turns out to be not a lot of money but two mill we keep things rolling for some time

[–] Pitchelos@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

You should try to make counteroffer to trump and advertise American citizenship starting from 2M

[–] TranquilTurbulence@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

How long does it take to become a US citizen? That determines how often you can sell your citizenship and restart the process. Imagine getting 5 million every year or two.

[–] formulaBonk@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago

Naturalized citizen here originally from Poland. It took 6 years waiting to be eligible to apply for green card, another 2 to actually get a green card, then another 5 years of living in the states to be able to apply for citizenship. So total of 13 years. Granted Poland was in a different political climate 25 years ago and it was difficult to ever get into the US so it really depends on “country of origin”.

[–] NimdaQA@lemmy.world -2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I’d suspect the five million ain’t going to be worth much after Trump is done.