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[–] Remember_the_tooth@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

With tariffs hammering F-35 sales, I expect the next Eurofighter project will have a lot more resources. I wonder if Canada will get involved.

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[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 1 points 9 months ago

American here. Who cares if it provokes Trump? Actions have consequences. Canada helped out a lot during 911. What did we do? Prove to be an unreliable partner

[–] nednobbins@lemm.ee 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

What would they do instead? Get a bunch of J-35s, like Egypt?

[–] Poem_for_your_sprog@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] nednobbins@lemm.ee 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'm confused.
That's not a poem.

I was assured that Sprog bestows awesome poems upon the masses.

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[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (2 children)

With a potential for an american invasion on the table, I wouldn't want to cancel that deal without another similar plane deal lined up

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

the potential for an invasion is precisely the reason you don't want the f-35 around. that warbird is the most technologically dependent device ever crafted for warfare. it is deeply vulnerable to an adversary with the knowledge simply bricking it remotely and you're kidding yourself if you don't think the us military wouldn't brick all of them. the better plan is to train with prior gen jets and asymmetric combat using drones.

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca -1 points 9 months ago

Immediate cancel. After attitude readjustment, accept bids from Lockheed and others.

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca -1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

100% TODAY! Do not pay a fucking dime of any amount owing for these. (good job on Globe and Mail for a change)

FYI, the Israeli version of F35 does not have this "US permission for every flight required"

F35 is a POS plane, with low uptime, in addition to "broken ownership". Even US military does not get manuals on how to repair/maintain them and must hire Lockheed consultants to do the job. The whole program was a boondoggle to pay Lockheed the most money possible instead of getting good military equipment, and any corrupt POS that was involved in approving this purchase for Canada should be jailed for treason.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

There's nothing stopping Canada from getting the manuals and patching the software. Most of the FUD about it's performance abilities is propaganda. So getting them and just locking out Lockheed and the US would be a pretty good middle finger too.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

This is the one that starved pilots of oxygen, right?

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That was the F-22 and it was over a decade ago. The problem has since been fixed.

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[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The performance metrics are criticisize by US military journals.

There’s nothing stopping Canada from getting the manuals and patching the software.

If US military can't get them or patch the software, Canada can't either. Israel is special for not putting up with US BS.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I haven't seen that. I've only seen blogs saying stuff. And if you have the literal hardware in your hands then changing the software isn't going to be hard as a country.

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca -1 points 9 months ago

8m lines of source code for F35 OS, afaiu. Vendor is intentionally crippling your access/functionality, and USMCA calls that "proper pro business attitude". Again, Lockheed has accomodated Israel in not crippling their version. It's not as though you have open source hardware to which to code your own OS ontop.

Only dumping the POS is appropriate. Call it a negotiation position.

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