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The Trump administration has abruptly fired 20 immigration judges without explanation, raising concerns amid efforts to accelerate deportations.

The firings include judges who had yet to be sworn in and senior officials overseeing immigration courts, which already face a backlog of 3.7 million cases.

Union official Matthew Biggs said it was unclear if the move was meant to send a message on immigration policy but called it part of a broader federal workforce purge, adding, “They’re treating these people as if they’re not human beings. It’s bad all around.”

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[–] Xanthobilly@lemmy.world 133 points 1 year ago (3 children)

People may see this as a self-own by Trump, but it is not. They’re going all in on Gitmo and extra-jurisdictional imprisonment and suspension of habeas corpus.

[–] lupusblackfur@lemmy.world 63 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Yep.

These firings simply an excuse. Now they can say "look, there's no judges to handle cases. Backlog" etc...

Another Chumped up problem created simply to support the Chump narrative.

🤡 🤡

[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I thought they would hire kangaroo-court style judges that just wave everyone through to gitmo.

[–] roguetrick@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Immigration judges are already kangaroo-court style judges. You can't have judicial independence if it's under the executive who creates the policy out of whole cloth in the first place. That's what this makes a fine point of but it's always been true.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 0 points 1 year ago

The backlog is already over 3 million people, it probably is just another case of everyone that was on their probationary period being fired like in every other part of the government.

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 year ago

it isn't. his plan simply doesn't require them.

[–] SGGeorwell@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

BINGO. They’re going to create a regime of terror to try to dissuade people from coming and scare the rest into leaving.

[–] takeda@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago

Without judges, he can "deport" legal immigrants or even citizens and who will prove him wrong?

[–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 52 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I didn't know the president could fire judges as they are part of the judicial branch and not the executive branch.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 59 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Immigration Court is a special court that is part of the Executive Branch, not the Judicial Branch.

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 28 points 1 year ago

I was also unaware of that distinction, thank you kindly!

[–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago

Ah! Thanks for the clarification

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Sorry, I'm largely ignorant of the US government, but can't another branch create their own alternative and keep on trucking? Assuming there's an initiative and they have the votes, ofc.

[–] I_Miss_Daniel@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He's not the president. He's the ruler.

[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

He’s the puppet. Always has been. Two guesses who the “master” is… and you’ll probably get them both right.

[–] I_Miss_Daniel@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Elodimir?

Sounds like a Lord of the Rings character.

[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I wouldn’t give them the satisfaction of such a comparison. How about the two henchmen of Cruella DeVille… that’d seem more fitting.

[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 48 points 1 year ago (4 children)

So.... I assume the jobs report in America isn't looking so good right now... How many thousands of people are jobless now from Trump's actions?

Same people supporting this bullshit are the same ones who said we should be willing to die for the economy during COVID

[–] NarrativeBear@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Homeless is illegal & yet the government seems so set on making people jobless.

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

If homelessness is illegal, then enslaving homeless people is legal

[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Putting them in the big house is extra super-duper legal

[–] NarrativeBear@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Interestingly if you ask most people if

  1. Would you rather provide a warm shelter and a temporary place to stay to help a human being to become a productive part of our society once again?

Or

  1. Would you rather send the same individual to prison indefinitely.

In both cases the individual gets shelter, a bed, and place to stay. The "accommodations" are paid by the same taxes you currently pay.

Most people would probably still choose number 2.

[–] Dnb@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

Yep because #2 makes them feel superior even when it costs them far more

[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 7 points 1 year ago

Gotta find another source of slave labor for the prison system.

[–] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Joblessness is usually not the issue it is jobs with a livable wage. And the answer to that is pretty shit.

[–] blakenong@lemmings.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well hopefully these judges find their skills aren’t as transferable as they thought

[–] LordCrom@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Judges can become high paid arbitrators. I learned that from the Legal Eagle channel

[–] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They'll just lie about the job numbers :/

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 8 points 1 year ago

Or stop publishing them because they fired everyone at the DOL.

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Jobs numbers were going to be bad with tech layoffs, this is just to obfuscate

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I know of one immigrant in particular who should be fired.

[–] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] jonne@infosec.pub 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And deported back to Africa too, I presume?

I'd be ok with Guantanamo

[–] GaMEChld@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A backlog of 3.7 million cases... Jesus.

[–] iowagneiss@midwest.social 5 points 1 year ago

I work in college financial aid. Students are eligible for federal/state funds if they've been granted asylum and in the country for at least a year since being granted asylum. So many still have an application pending. The process shouldn't take more than a year, but I've personally seen someone whose application has been pending for seven years, and I've heard of longer ones. In the interim, they get a temporary status and work authorization, but I can't imagine the stress they're under while waiting this out and watching the new administration work against them.

[–] Ebby@lemmy.ssba.com 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Court is our legal opportunity to defend ourselves; sometimes our last defense of our rights.

Trump can't have the peons exploiting the rich's privilege to delay, defend, and just jump straight to deny.

They're never wrong anyway. Trust them. /s

(Edit: I use "peons" to encompass non-rich Americans and immigrants alike. Not used derogatorily to single out specific folks or groups.)

[–] OmegaMan@lemmings.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Also worth noting that immigration courts are pretty much just theater. Most of these people do not have lawyers, and unlike a criminal court they do not have the right to a public defender. They aren't part of the judicial branch which is why trump can just fire the judges.

Imagine a court where the judge and the prosecutor have the same boss.... That's immigration court. It's a sham masquerading as justice.

[–] shasta@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

I thought just judges and prosecutors serve the state?

[–] RangerJosey@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] ThomasLadder_69@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] RangerJosey@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

The nazi regime is purging judges who treat human beings like human beings.

Clear enough for you?