"This is my teacher, Ibrahim Al-Shawish, from my hometown, and one of my high school teachers. He was arrested by the Zionist occupation during the genocide and was released today" : israelpalestine

[+] NuclearPlatypus@jlai.lu 49 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

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[–] moseschrute@lemmy.world 28 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Is there an article? Not that that will make my family believe what is happening, but it’s more likely to convince them than a tweet.

[–] Thcdenton@lemmy.world 26 points 10 months ago

I dont care how much beef you have with someone. If you intentionally starve someone, you're a subhuman.

[–] meowmeowbeanz@sh.itjust.works 23 points 10 months ago

The before-and-after images of Ibrahim Al-Shawish speak volumes about the inhumanity of his detention. A teacher—someone who shapes the minds of the next generation—reduced to this state is a grotesque indictment of a system that thrives on dehumanization. Torture, starvation, and psychological torment are not tools of justice; they are weapons wielded by those who fear accountability.

This isn’t just about one man. It’s a snapshot of a broader machinery designed to break spirits and erase dignity. Yet, even in his frailty, Al-Shawish’s release is a testament to resilience. The question remains: how long will the world avert its gaze while such atrocities persist? Those complicit in silence are no less guilty than those who inflict the harm.

[–] PanArab@lemm.ee 19 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Contrast this with how Israeli captives looked after 15 months of being held by Hamas.

[–] jimmy90@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

they looked skinny, unwell and scared too

[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This man isn't "skinny", he's a walking skeleton.

[–] jimmy90@lemmy.world -2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

kinda like this?

israeli hostages

i don't know how skinny is enough for abuse/torture/skeletal

[–] dreugeworst@lemmy.ml 17 points 10 months ago

the Israelis learned too well from the holocaust

[–] demizerone@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I wonder what the names of the Israeli concentration camps will be that are taught about in high school...

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

How do you say "Arbeit macht frei" in Hebrew?

EDIT: According to Google Translate it's העבודה משחררת אותך

[–] Jumi@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

When I was in the equivalent of highschool we went to the KZ Dachau where I saw picture of victims who looked like that.

[–] NuclearPlatypus@jlai.lu 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

The testimonies that struck me the most since October 7, I believe, are these two:

A former Palestinian bodybuilder who came out of an Israeli prison frail and in poor health after months without charge says he was tortured and abused, and compared Israeli prisons to Guantanamo Bay.

Israeli forces released Badr Dahlan, a 29-year-old Palestinian prisoner from Gaza, after a month of detention. Dahlan appeared to be in very poor condition, in a state of shock and disorientation, and unable to speak clearly due to the torture he was subjected to

The fact that after juste one month the guy looks dead inside and unable to talk is just horrible (and they re-arrested him 2 months ago...)

Israel concentration camps are on Assad's one in terms of cruelty

[–] Jumi@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

I'm calling it a cruel genocide and that's a hill I'm willing to die on.

[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Fuck Israel

[+] Dezzorian@lemmy.world -7 points 10 months ago (2 children)

If this is true, it is below humanity. But trying to recognize the man on the left photo in the right one and reading more about this specific news post i'm not so sure anymore.

[–] StrongHorseWeakNeigh@lemm.ee 12 points 10 months ago

Top and bottom lips have the same proportion, ears have the same outward tilt, widows peak is basically the same, eyebrows are the exact same. It's the same guy.

[–] LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 10 months ago

I'm glad that starvation and grievous torture is so unfamiliar to you that you can't understand the way it dramatically changes your body.

[+] TrickDacy@lemmy.world -12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (6 children)

I thought linking to tweets was pretty much banned in the fediverse. Apparently not?

Edit: sorry for the thought crime of thinking I saw some general agreement in several posts a couple weeks ago where it seemed wildly popular to ban links to a platform that funds Nazis. I'll try not to commit that heinous act again.

[–] liyunxiao@sh.itjust.works 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It depends on the instance, because there are no universal rules across the fediverse, that's the point of the fediverse, and I don't believe this instance voted to do the pointless act of banning Twitter.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

that’s the point of the fediverse

I fully realize this. I'm referring to a larger discussion which was an idea being thrown out which a lot of communities and instances seemed on board with.

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That’s fine but your comment was basically “oh not everyone is doing the same thing on the fediverse?” Which you just acknowledged is the point of the fediverse. So you should criticize specific instances rather than just making a blanket statement

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

You misunderstood me. It wasn't a criticism, it was a confirmation of misunderstanding

[–] StrongHorseWeakNeigh@lemm.ee 7 points 10 months ago

Maybe stay on topic to the thread next time.

Sees post of horrifying condition of Palestinian man

"Why is there a Twitter link I thought Twitter was evil?"

There's a time and a place.

[–] Scubus@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

How would that possibly be enforced

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Moderation and/or bots? That wouldn't be hard at all.

[–] Scubus@sh.itjust.works 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

In order to block that, every single admin on every single instance would have to set up blocking tools. From there, anyone that decides to start their own instance would have to decide to also set up those tools. Thats the main draw of the fediverse, you cant block anything because someone can always federate with an instance that doesnt have that thing blocked.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world -3 points 10 months ago

It's not my fault that you can't understand the idea of general agreement vs strict requirement enforced with an iron fist.

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Twitter is still one of the primary content discovery platforms. Reddit is a distilled Twitter feed.

[–] fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de -4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I feel like these threads about palestine / gaza are very emotionally charged.

Anything other than abject support for this thread and the prevailing narrative will be unwelcome.

[–] gusgalarnyk@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Just empathize for a moment, imagine - you're scrolling on your feed which encompasses the world's daily news. You see a picture of a modern day concentration camp's aftermath. You see the gruesome effect it has on people or you say the mass grave. You open it up and you decide to write a comment. What do you comment on?

I just think if it's anything other than empathizing with the subject matter and engaging with it your comment is going to come across as robotic, as inhuman, because if something like this doesn't move you then there's something wrong. I don't think a meta comment pinned to an empathic and engaging topic would be down voted so horribly. For instance, if someone said "I can't believe this level of cruelty is still going on in places with abundant resources historically. Side note: when the source material moves off Twitter we should reshare that as Twitter is owned by a Nazi." I would think people wouldn't stop to down vote.

It's not about getting in line with the prevailing narrative in this instance, it's just the nature of Internet discussion in an aggregate platform on a serious topic that's got a long time scale. You're talking to strangers about people being tortured or dying and we live in a world where some non-marginal amount of people don't care or applaud it so the first thing a frequent reader wants to do when reading a comment is vet that you're not one of the applauders.

[–] fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I don't think that really adequately describes what's happening in this thread.

Yes the subject is distressing, but plenty of distressing topics are discussed on lemmy all the time without this level of animosity.

[–] gusgalarnyk@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

I feel like every "distressing" thread has comments like that one that are innocent but obtuse and suffer the same vote ratio.

But perception is manipulative, without data I can't back my position. Maybe we're both wrong and the reality is somewhere in the middle.

[+] Joli_corail@jlai.lu -33 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

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[–] gusgalarnyk@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Is there anything about this that makes you believe it's false or misleading propaganda?

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

The commenters account is 4 days old.

[–] gusgalarnyk@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Good note, thank you. It's important we protect ourselves against bad faith actors. I wrote a note on the account for myself but I wanted to give them a chance to explain themselves.

[–] GeeDubHayduke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 10 months ago

Eat shit

Conflit Israelo-Palestinien

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