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Eighteen Democratic-led states sue over Trump birthright citizenship order
(www.theguardian.com)
Why do we have to sue to have our founding document respected?
this post was submitted on 21 Jan 2025
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Because it's all you can do. However, this will almost certainly go all the way to the corrupt supreme court, who will find in favour of trump, and change the constitution.
At that point I hope the blue states realize there's nothing to gain from remaining in the union
Remember a year ago when Texas was talking about seceding, and how everyone pointed out that there was no legal mechanism for them to do that ?
If laws don't matter, neither does a legal mechanism.
Yeah, we're starting to learn that a lot of "rules" aren't actually written down, and even if they are, who cares if they aren't enforced? The Trump era will teach an entire generation of Americans that lawlessness is subjective and always profitable.
There's never a legal way to overthrow a corrupt government. The US didn't gain its independence from England through legal channels.
Given the fact that Texas will threaten to secede at the drop of a hat and have been doing so since they lost in the civil war. Well it comes across as hollow and annoying at best.
I remember reading in school about how the American colonies lawfully seceded from England. It was all done according to the letter of the law, with a lot of respect from both sides on how cordial the whole process was.
Yup.
Take our massive economies and our larger number of military personnel and do our own thing. Not much of a loss.
Yup.
And you can 100% expect them to try to use the Supreme Court to amend the constitution to keep Trump (or his unelected successor) in power at the end of this 4 year stretch. That or they'll declare some state of emergency and "postpone" elections.
This is anti-democratic felon rapist whose party has enabled him every step of the way and already removed women's rights. They will absolutely attempt what I just described.
Because Republicans spent years radicalizing the dumbest members of our society, which unfortunately now include over half of voting Americans, using fear-based propaganda, in order to put themselves in a position to dismantle our democracy for their own benefit.
What else do you expect? Trump struck down by lightning as soon as he signed it?
Because half of all people are dumber than average.
No, half of all people are dumber than the mean.
Because it was intentionally written to be vague in places. As time passes, and sensibilities change; This allows current people to debate and reinterpret what those passages mean for them.
That's how government works.
Not even half the states
yeah this isn't enough of the states
Just the states with a population bigger than like east LA or the Bronx.
we havin fun yet?
More "fun" than has ever been seen in the history of the USA. Many very important people are saying this is the most fun that has ever been had.
Oh no, you still aren't at 1861-65 levels of fun. For now.
This is just the beginning of the Trump Party (not Republican Party anymore) attempting to dismantle our Constitution.
Expect it to continue non-stop for the next 4 years minimum. And expect it to succeed in some ways. We will not come out of this era with the same number of rights we went in with. Women already haven't.
Article has updated since posting. It's now 22 states.
I have the following count from what I could gather, if you're not in one of these states/jurisdictions and you are in the United States, I would encourage you contact your local state attorney general and encourage them to take part.
- New jersey
- Massachusetts
- California
- Colorado
- Connecticut
- Delaware
- Hawaii
- Maine
- Maryland
- Michigan
- Minnesota
- Nevada
- New Mexico
- New York
- North Carolina
- Rhode Island
- Vermont
- Wisconsin
- New Hampshire
- Washington
- Illinois
- Oregon
- Arizona
Extras:
- Washington, DC
- San Francisco, CA
Glad I am in Oregon then. I might have a chance of retaining some semblance of human rights
Is this one of those things that will end up at the Supreme Court? If so, I don't have much faith and would sound like exactly what they want to occur.
What's the alternative? Not resist, throw our hands up, and say "it won't work"? These fascist bootlickers can destroy our democracy, but we don't have to make it easy for them...
Americans won't do anything until it personally affects their lifestyles. So, probably not at all, and if so, probably far too late.
Yeah good luck with suing someone who uses law books for toilet paper..I'm sure trump is very worried now.
I'm curious to see a map of cannabis legalization map next to a map of these States.