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[–] Dishronor@lemmy.zip 17 points 1 day ago (2 children)

They even noticed a decrease in Trump support activity on social media.

[–] kalman@dboft.com 2 points 22 hours ago

Hence turkey neck flipping his shit.

[–] sunbytes@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How amazing would it be if Big Z's long-term strategy was actually to have Trump lose the midterms so he loses enough power that he can't continue to influence the Ukranian defence so much.

Kill those data centres and bot farms!!

[–] minorkeys@sh.itjust.works 3 points 22 hours ago

Election inference through disabling election interference. The most pro democracy one can be, by better enabling democracy.

[–] Mwa@thelemmy.club 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

hopefully it took out half (or some?) of the bots on TF2

[–] NathanRanch@lemmy.zip 1 points 23 hours ago
[–] TheStaffmaster@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago

I know that he won't win a peace prize, But this man needs some recognition for unmasking the Putin regimes' Paper Tiger status. He's out there making life just a little better for the rest of civilized society, and has really raised Ukraines' international profile. There's no way that Ukraine is not coming out of this as a real power player on the European stage, NATO admittance or not.

But yeah, drop in the bucket. At least some of these shitty AI bots are gone for awhile. A reprieve is a reprieve.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 51 points 2 days ago

Some.

Keep it up, dude.

[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 44 points 2 days ago (2 children)

silenced Yandex crawler bots,. indexing for their search engine, not social media bots

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Why not both?

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (8 children)

I was going to say... Does anyone genuinely believe we're going to see fewer bots by late October? As though we didn't have a bumper crop of them run out of American datacenters?

Does anyone seriously believe "the bots are gone, so I shouldn't accuse anyone on the internet of being a bot anymore"? Or are we going to see the same "Bad Take = Russian NPC" response every time someone with an .ml origin says something that sets a .world local account on tilt?

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 2 days ago (10 children)

It doesn't actually make sense for Russia to be running their Digital Propaganda agents from Russian IP addresses unless they're trying to make it easy for the likes of Meta and Twitter to just block them.

I mean, all you have to do is ponder for a few seconds on - "what would I do if I was a propagandist from an adversary nation trying to covertly influence citizens in other nations?". The immediate, obvious thing is "I wouldn't makes it stupidly obvious for the counter-intel people on the other side who owns them by hosting the fucking bots in my own country".

It makes sense for them to have Command & Control in Russia, but not the actual bots.

[–] group_hug@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Zuck brags that 80% of your friend list will be AI and you think Meta is trying to keep out the bots?

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

That is a good point.

It really depends if he's trying to control the narrative (in which case he will want to control the bots) or to just keep people engaged with his products (in which case he doesn't care).

[–] group_hug@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

I think it depends. It is more about pushing the desired information to the desired profiles.

Any narrative can be useful to push as long as it is the right type of person to be pushing it to.

I believe why so many Billie's have gone mask off is because they have had such tremendous success with the granular controls algorithms provide for propaganda, radicalisation and disinformation.

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[–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 day ago

Why would Meta or Twitter block them?

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It doesn't actually make sense for Russia to be running their Digital Propaganda agents from Russian IP addresses

I would expect they are passing that traffic through a shitton of pwned computers around the world.

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[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 19 points 2 days ago

Based Zelenskyy!

[–] Cytobit@piefed.social 58 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Blowing up data centers will not stop troll farms. Troll traffic is not coming from Yandex.

Some of the claims appear to conflate data centers with Russian “troll farms” such as the Internet Research Agency (IRA), which became well-known following a 2015 expose. The IRA operated out of a St. Petersburg office building, not a datacenter operated by Yandex. Nor does there appear to be any particular reason the IRA would require an inordinate amount of network resources.

[–] redballooon@lemmy.world 79 points 2 days ago (4 children)

That's one instance of a troll farm from 11 years ago.

Surely nowadays these troll farms are LLM powered instead of human powered and of course need compute power.

Where the humans sit that orchestrate these bot networks is another topic.

[–] zqps@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Yeah the idea that they would just route their traffic from a regular office network connection is truly stupid.

[–] towerful@programming.dev 2 points 1 day ago

They will be using data center compute to generate the traffic, but proxy it through residential proxies and other compromised devices that form a botnet.
Central generation with remote access for the trolls, and distributed outbound traffic.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

Surely nowadays these troll farms are LLM powered instead of human powered and of course need compute power.

Where is the lion's share of LLM compute located?

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[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Nah you still need datacenter compute for orchestration

[–] cantstopthesignal@sh.itjust.works 1 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

Silence the back end and front end goes quiet. Also if they run their back end on servers in another country then it leaves them open to counter espionage.

[–] kbobabob@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Blowing up data centers will not stop troll farms

I didn't think that is their goal. I thought their goal was to get Russia to leave their country.

[–] DBT@feddit.online 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yea, but troll farms influence US elections, and US elections play a role in the war in Ukraine.

An example of this would be Trump deciding to buy diesel from Russia, which helps Russia fund their war against Ukraine.

So stopping troll farms can help work towards the goal of getting Russia to leave their country.

[–] andz@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 day ago

They influence not only elections but the general opinion about a lot of things.

I have several people close to me who has been sceptical about the reach of Russian disinformation in the years leading up to us joining NATO, and this is just the latest in many events that has proven very useful for showcasing just how integrated that disinformation is in our daily life. This while we are better at countering them than most, supposedly. Just talking about them in school is not enough anymore. They're fucking cockroaches and more of this is needed. Preferably on a daily basis.

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[–] neidu4@piefed.social 25 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm not opposed to blowing up data centers in general, just saying...

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[–] SubstituteTurkey@lemmy.ca 31 points 2 days ago (2 children)
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[–] BurgerBaron@quokk.au 9 points 2 days ago (4 children)

That's the claim but where's the evidence. I'm not going around pretending the enemy is diminished when it's actually not.

yeah, I would love this to be true but it looks like it's probably disinformation.

hope someone actually manages to get rid of the bots someday!

[–] daychilde@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Exactly this. I keep reading all of the stuff posted about this and I have yet to see evidence. And in fact, while i'm not a security expert, I am a hosting expert, and I can tell you: That is not how they operate. They obfuscate their origin as much as possible, else it would be trivial to filter them and block them.

I respect Ukraine and Zelenskyy, but I think this claim is untrue.

[–] BurgerBaron@quokk.au 7 points 2 days ago

When laypeople read a diplomatic statement and take it at face value it's a good sign they're media illiterate or just want what was said to be true desperately, reality be damned. I know Zelensky is fighting a war and puffing his chest saying shit to look strong. That's fine it's his job as wartime leader.

I'm Albertan so I'm feeling rather paranoid about letting my guard down is all.

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[–] 777Prawn@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Distrust what you're fed by TV and the press, and to think for yourself rather than accepting any official narratives these days.

[–] NotEasyBeingGreen@slrpnk.net 14 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I have a (former?) friend who says that. He's fully addicted to algorithm-induced rage. He sends me 3 or 4 Islamophobic and/or Zionist videos from Instagram or X or Facebook every day for some reason.

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[–] mysteryhumpf@feddit.org 15 points 2 days ago (4 children)

To be clear four days later there is still zero evidence this is true.

[–] UiUiUiUiUi@piefed.nl 33 points 2 days ago (3 children)
[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] UiUiUiUiUi@piefed.nl 21 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Tomshardware doesn't show twitter account changes it talks about cloudflare traffic and expert opinions but thelondoneconimoc has a better article on the effects on e.g. Reform’s twitter.

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Here’s a quote from my above source

Take Richard Tice for example. Below are three posts on X from the Reform deputy leader to his almost 400,000 followers on Monday, 11 October. At the time of writing, none of the posts had hit triple figures for reposts or comments, with one not even reaching 10,000 views.

{...}

Before the Ukrainian strikes on the Russia data centres, Tice’s posts got considerably more engagement, consistently hitting triple figures for comments and reposts, whilst racking up hundreds of thousands of views.

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[–] dfyx@piefed.social 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

Which gives exactly no evidence of a decline in social media bots.

If you actually click the source link in the article, you see that the graph shows the bot traffic from "AS13238 YANDEX — Yandex LLC", not the internet overall. That caption was conveniently cropped. Also, those bots are very likely not the kind that post on twitter but web crawlers. Yandex is a search engine. Of course destroying its data centers stops the web crawlers running in those data centers from indexing sites.

I have yet to see an actual statistic of the amount political social media posts or active users on social media sites changing in any way.

Edit: claiming that this attack has destroyed the bot farms and giving mislabeled graphs as sources is actively harmful because it leads people to believe that everything that is left must be "real people" when it's very likely that pretty much all of the bots are still active.

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[–] SethW@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

From how it was explained to me by colleagues that work with this stuff for us is that those data centers were links in a chain of vpns that many bot swarms used and when they went down their ip addresses were reveled and on many platforms that resulted in automated bans and THAT is the subjective experience of the bots being silenced

[–] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

That's not how any of that should normally work. And I doubt it that your colleagues have insight into Russian operations unless you're either in the NSA or in the FSB.

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