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[–] cecilkorik@piefed.ca 5 points 4 hours ago

She's a monster, a selfish horrible monster. Who else is going to kill all those little schoolgirls when the US can't afford to do it anymore, because they're busy only caring for themselves? It's like she can only think about herself. Awful. /s

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 65 points 9 hours ago (7 children)

NHS costs about 4600$ per recipient

Spanish healthcare system 5346$ per recipient

Canada's is about 5000$

The US PUBLIC healthcare spending (Medicare, medicaid, VA, ACA subsidies) is about 5600$ PER CITIZEN (not recipient).

IE:

Americans already pay enough in taxes for 100% free comprehensive healthcare for everyone, but get fuck all. The average household pays between 15000$ to 20000$ for healthcare.

The American system is not inefficient, it is an extortion scam that steals trillions from working Americans and kills about 40,000 Americans per yeat.

Wanting the US healthcare system is like wanting a 9/11 every month.

We could give every American 100% free healthcare, without rising taxes. Imagine what would happen to the economy when every household has an extra 15k$ of disposable income?

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 2 points 1 hour ago

The White House recently posted that it would cost $35,500 per household per year to enact Medicare for All.

Obviously, that's total horseshit, but that's the attitude we are fighting.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 1 points 51 minutes ago* (last edited 50 minutes ago)

The thing people don't realize is that we already have universal healthcare, but in a stupid, cruel way. A hospital will treat anybody, but they'll go into debt for the amount they "should" have paid, while everyone who does pay already pays for those who can't.

Also - If anyone reading this is uninsured and needs medical attention - get treatment and ignore the bills. Medical debt might as well be imaginary. It's essentially ignored by credit bureaus. Hospitals sell it off to debt collectors who will try to get you to pay, but just end up selling it off again and again until it goes away 99.99% of the time.

Don't ignore something potentially serious over financial concerns.

[–] jtrek@startrek.website 10 points 8 hours ago

I bring it up a lot but the book "dying of whiteness" was a horrifying look into this. A significant amount of people don't want national health care, even if it means they themselves get sick and die, because then those people would get it.

The money facts don't matter. It's just emotional sludge.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 18 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

But in Canada you may have to wait to see a doctor! Checkmate socialists!

[–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 9 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Which means you were triaged and are not among most critical cases. Wanna know what happens in an American ER when you aren't visibly in critical condition?

[–] cdf12345@lemmy.zip 1 points 52 minutes ago

Ohh you rolled snake eyes, sorry lose 12 hours and try again

[–] fartographer@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

I bet it's something Canadian!

- The cardiologist I fired

[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 hours ago

You forgot about the IHS (second only to the VA in size), honestly one of the best kept secrets in the US… if all the MAGAts knew their tax dollars were going to give Native Americans universal healthcare there would probably be riots on the streets.

For real though, between all those programs there are already like 40 million people on a universal type healthcare system, I’ve never understood why we can just extend it to everybody.

[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 10 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

A good part of the reason public health expenditure is so much higher in the US is because public healthcare doesn't generally cover healthy people. Medicare exclusively covers seniors and disabled people for instance.

If we just expanded coverage to everyone, we'd probably be instantly on par with other public health systems on a cost-per-patient basis.

[–] __siru__@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

This and maybe not always using name-brand prescriptions. But maybe that has changed, it has been a while since I was actively living in the US.

[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 4 points 9 hours ago

Medicare Part D is kind of a cluster fuck. The way the use different PBMs and its your job to create a spreadsheet of all the meds you take, which are covered, and min-max your way to being able to live is absolutely fucking infuriating...

That said, the system absolutely does not push your towards expensive name-brand meds, probably errs on the side of pushing you towards generics, when they are available.

There are other factors on the pharmacy side, including public advertising, so patients demand those name brand drugs, and physician influencing campaigns...

[–] bedwyr@piefed.ca 3 points 9 hours ago

We know it, thanks for the figures though, I will write this down. I don't want to bother you for a source, but if I cite these figures elsewhere I would need one, and I will, cite these figures if I am able.

[–] bad1080@piefed.social 4 points 7 hours ago

what radicalized you? /s

[–] Noodle07@lemmy.world 0 points 4 hours ago

Wow such an extremist

[–] vivalapivo@lemmy.today 4 points 10 hours ago

Wait till their super project for replacing the workforce is complete. Then you won't have a say in where to spend money at all.

[–] SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

But but that's Private Enterprise Small Government Christian Nation Survival Of The Fittest!

Many people are saying there are communists posting here.

[–] darvocet@infosec.pub 1 points 7 hours ago

Radical lunatic

[–] bedwyr@piefed.ca 1 points 9 hours ago

Communist! /s

Nothing is too stupid in 2026.