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"The maps shouldn’t have shown that the bridge was complete."

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[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 188 points 2 years ago (3 children)

what if it was a paper map? would the mapping company be liable?

put the blame where it belongs; on the construction company who failed to block an unnavigable, dangerous piece of road.

[–] turbowafflz@lemmy.world 86 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Yeah I mean it would have been good if google maps could have prevented this but like the same thing could have happened to someone without a map

[–] AndrewZabar@lemmy.world 47 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah, I mean, someone has to provide the information. If one day, there’s a full bridge, and the next day it’s deconstructed for repairs, Google can’t magically know; some information needs to be pushed out to be parsed and updated. It wouldn’t surprise me if this was simply done by construction co. without proper filing etc. very few nations have the extreme regulations that U.S. has - it's one of America’s redeeming qualities. Of course, that may not always be the case. But yknow.

[–] Cort@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I suppose it depends on the locale, but I'm my experience, the cities I've lived in update the gis maps and send change updates to Google very regularly, where they sit unimplemented for months.

[–] AndrewZabar@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Yeah I can see that being a problem too. Shrug.

[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago

I used to travel by paper map for like all of the 90s and 00s. I can reliably say, it was never the map's fault.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 104 points 2 years ago

A more accurate title is "Three men die when road crews fail to barricade a broken bridge".

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 79 points 2 years ago (1 children)
  1. As soon as the bridge was deemed unsafe, it should have had barricades erected.
  2. Situational awareness supersedes maps, digital or not.
  3. Every GPS device, paper map and App out there would have had even chances to miss this.
  4. Driving in India is insane, even if the infrastructure wasn't as bad as it is... and to be clear, it's awful.
[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 15 points 2 years ago

Situational awareness is key, but if all other indicators suggested everything was fine and you were driving up a bridge at night, there's not much warning before the road is suddenly not there thanks to the curvature of the road. I've seen plenty of short clips of cars dropping into missing road segments due to whatever reasons, and it's just not something you look for normally while driving nor is it that easy to see from a distance vs. an obstacle on the road. It's possible they tried to stop and just couldn't in time. The vehicle would be farther away if they had just flown off and not right below the base.

[–] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 61 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Do they not put barricades in the road when it's closed in India?

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 34 points 2 years ago

Infrastructure and Driving in India come with substantial risks to life.

[–] Opisek@lemmy.world 44 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I fail to see how that's Google Maps' fault. This is the city's fault for not blocking the bridge. Would people have complained if a paper map didn't update all the collapsed bridges daily?

[–] BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I'd probably also somewhat blame the person that drove off the bridge that clearly goes nowhere.

[–] markstos@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Looks like it might have been dark and foggy. The government failed to block the extremely dangerous situation— a standard practice when a bridge is put in other places.

[–] toynbee@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Seems like blame can be applied at least three ways at once.

[–] lost_voyager@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

It's from India, here either news reporters take bribe to not write it was authorities fault or can't think straight and rational.

[–] Coreidan@lemmy.world 35 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What excuse do they have for ignoring traffic signs and literally every other indication that the road is closed?

A GPS doesn’t absolve you from personal responsibility. Use your eyes.

[–] Atomic@sh.itjust.works 29 points 2 years ago

They were driving in the night. Visibility was poor. The road wasn't closed off. Just to name a few.

You're probably imagining reflective signs, barricades, lights, led warning signs, etc. I know i would expect all of those.

But this is India. And we're talking about a company that didn't even block the road. There is a very good chance there were no indications visible in the night.

[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 31 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Given that there is death involved, this is "sensitive"... So I will not post a gif of Michael and Dwight driving into the river because the GPS told them to.

[–] Xenny@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago

I will not chuckle at the thought of this hypothetical meme

[–] Stalinwolf@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago

Truly the show's biggest jumping of the shark.

[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 23 points 2 years ago (3 children)

google maps once tried to send me through a military base. Like, yes this would technically be faster if it wasn't for the armed guards.

apple maps hasn't tried to kill me ... yet

[–] BrikoX@lemmy.zip 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

There were almost monthly stories about Apple Maps leading to death and near-death experiences when they came out, not sure about now. Hopefully they got better.

[–] djsaskdja@reddthat.com 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I use it. It’s definitely gotten better. The traffic and business data isn’t as good as Google’s, but otherwise they’re pretty comparable these days.

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Genuine question: If Apple Maps is inferior to Google Maps, why do you use it? I don't want to sound judgemental, but it seems like trading giving your info from one giant corporation to another. If I ever de-Google I'll switch to Open Street Maps...

[–] djsaskdja@reddthat.com 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Apple already has my location data from other apps including Find My. I’d rather give it to one megacorp instead of 2 I guess.

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 1 points 2 years ago

Totally valid. I guess anything is better than nothing, they all pretty much have our data anyway...

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[–] m4xie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

This is an old story, hopefully they've done something about it

"Australian police call the application "potentially life threatening" after travelers are left stranded in scorching-hot temperatures"

https://theweek.com/articles/469634/4-nightmarescenarios-involving-apple-maps

[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I've been sent the wrong way up one way streets (big flaw to not have the fucking direction of traffic marked so that's also on the city design) and my wife was sent through a quarry once

Fucking weird part is that the quarry route is a legit road that connects to a shopping center on the other side, so I guess that one is fine?

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 1 points 2 years ago

That's stone cold.

[–] Blaster_M@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Guess that means the trip to the shops involves a rally stage?

[–] Blaster_M@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

...and that's why you don't use car navigation in airplane mode.

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If it's not in airplane mode, how do you expect the car to fly over the gap in the bridge?

[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Have you not seen Speed? You drive faster.

[–] DrSleepless@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Had a lady in my store yesterday insisting that we had an item because google said so

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Those people are fun the first and second time. After that you start getting a certain attitude towards them.

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[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Man, I went to like 3 different Targets to find an item because the company that made the item said those Targets carried it. None of them did.

Of course, nothing is better than a store saying they carry an item when they in fact do not. That happens pretty frequently when I'm looking for something specific. Not out of stock mind you, but they will never have stock.

[–] joostjakob@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

I had to check. I'm pretty sure it's this bridge in OpenStreetMap https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15%2F28.02674%2F79.48926 And there it is also not closed off for routing

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Sure glad they circled it, I didn’t know which end was unfinished.

[–] AndrewZabar@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

lol but I am pretty sure what’s circled is the downed vehicle.

[–] tdawg@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Bridges and cars are easy to confuse. Hence the red circle

[–] ohellidk@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago

reminds me of the movie "idiocracy" when Joe looks out of the window at the hospital.

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

"Three men die in bizarre money-laundering incident."

Judging by the pictures, that bridge was never going to connect to anything.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

The article tells you it's a repair of a wash out. So it absolutely does have a connection.

[–] Mandy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago

Darwin would like to have a word with the driver

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 years ago

Take control of your mapping and learn to use your brain

#openstreetmap

[–] kusivittula@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 years ago

"THE MACHINE KNOWS!"

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