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[–] DeathsEmbrace@lemmy.world 358 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (8 children)

This leads to the government deciding which websites you can visit and cant visit down the line. This is a dystopian level of control and with surveillance already getting dystopian… Pick your dystopian technology book and decide which one we’re leading towards. Fascism policies are already on the rise in democratic worlds.

[–] non_burglar@lemmy.world 23 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I pick mad max. In the end, it will come down to oil.

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[–] Noam_Calhoun@lemmy.today 153 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Great, more boomers who can't understand how the internet works.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 142 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

This doesn't stem from a lack of understanding. It's about corporations and control.

[–] 4am@lemmy.zip 59 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

We need to stop believing the boomer’s framing that they’re all old and dumb, and start realizing that they’d eat us if we tasted good

[–] yeahiknow3@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (6 children)

Given all the cute sentient animals humans gleefully consume, your words ring true.

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[–] dmtalon@lemmy.world 70 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Choose your DNS provider wisely

[–] urushitan@kakera.kintsugi.moe 69 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

And ensure your VPN provider isn’t headquartered in the US (or better yet any five eyes nation) nor one of the ones owned by the Israeli Billionaire Teddy Sagi who likely also has deep ties to the Israeli and US governments

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kape_Technologies

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 33 points 2 weeks ago

TIL expressVPN started as

Crossrider started off by making a SDK for the deployment of browser extensions platforms with support for monetizing extensions. The monetization options were used by major [ad injectors which used man-in-the-browser to change or add advertisements to what users saw.

JFC.

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 16 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

Good lists of vpn providers would be appreciated.

[–] iamthetot@piefed.ca 29 points 2 weeks ago

Proton has been good for me. CEO seems like a dick but I'm gonna be honest it's getting pretty hard to support any tech company that doesn't have a dick CEO.

[–] NekoKoneko@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Mullvad is zero log and located in Sweden, and accepts payment in crypto to reduce traceable privacy footprint (which frankly is one of the real, relevant use-cases for crypto to further legitimate privacy needs).

[–] im_fine_sandy@nord.pub 15 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah but one of the guys that owns it is the primary funder of that nutty far right political group.

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[–] CorrectAlias@piefed.blahaj.zone 10 points 2 weeks ago

AirVPN has been great so far. Moved to it from Mullvad.

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[–] DonutsRMeh@lemmy.world 63 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Like this will ever work. lol. Just don’t get VPN from a company that is headquartered in the US. Problem solved. There are a million other ways to bypass this. There will ALWAYS be away, they’re just trying to make it harder for the experienced, and impossible for your average Joe.

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[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 53 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

political theater. won't happen because it's unenforceable.

  • VPNs operate outside of federal control
  • ISPs leverage DNS blocking to censor which is laughable
  • DNS exists outside of the US

if this does happen, IF, it has nothing to do with IP rights or protecting Americans. it has everything to do with censoring what the majority of common Americans read online. this is the first step towards blocking news outlets that won't regurgitate whitehouse directives.

[–] Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I'm a bit surprised they've gone with piracy as an excuse - usually it's "Think of the children!" Maybe they've finally figured out that we already know that republicans are thinking of (molesting) the children so they've fallen back on "You wouldn't download a car".

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[–] blackberry28@sh.itjust.works 48 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

US on the way to become a less free country than China lol

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[–] rafoix@lemmy.zip 47 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

If piracy was a problem I can find them multiple international corporations that are well know for using copyrighted content to train their LLM without paying for it or having permission from the owner of that content.

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[–] Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus 46 points 2 weeks ago

This goes far deeper than just "piracy". Everyone's favourite section 1201 of the DMCA also means that this bill will result in the US blocking foreign sites which explain to you how to fix your shit if you have to bypass even the most inane digital lock.

[–] Pollo_Jack@lemmy.world 43 points 2 weeks ago

Sounds like another assault on freedom of speech.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 42 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

That's the whole point of VPN providers. They're not in your jurisdiction.

[–] ulkesh@piefed.social 41 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Yeah, good luck with enforcing that to foreign VPN providers, you dumb fucks.

[–] Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus 33 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Next step is blocking access to foreign VPN providers. They are dumb fucks, but they are persistent dumb fucks.

[–] Railcar8095@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Double VPN? VPS in Europe? Tor?

Life... Finds a way. Piracy too.

[–] Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I think so too - we and many others won't have an issue getting whatever we need. But the broad masses might not, and this legislation also aims at things like repair instructions and tools to fix your shit thanks to Section 1201 of the DMCA.

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[–] ErevanDB@lemmy.zip 40 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Well, time to protest, and if need be, use the constitution how it was intended.

[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 15 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

Or ... time to set my VPN to Canada.

[–] Burninator05@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I think the intent of the law is that it wouldn't mater. If the VPN blocks the site, you can't get to the site.

[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 16 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Why would a Canadian VPN server obey US block lists?

[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

It wouldn't, which is why I roll my eyes every time I see a bill demanding what a VPN must do.

The only way for them to actually enforce this through VPNs is to block VPNs. Which, presumably, they'll do at some point, but with an exception list for companies paying the right license fee to use a Government Approved VPN.

Which, obviously, will be full of security flaws, and likely won't be HIPPA compliant or other compliances etc, etc.

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[–] obvs@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

I don't know if you're familiar with how VPNs work, but it's basically like a computer in the other country is sharing its internet connection with you.

So let's imagine that things are reversed, and you're a VPN provider in the United States and you're sharing your internet connection with some computers in another country, like Saudi Arabia, for example.

And just to be clear, you conduct no business in Saudi Arabia. You're just sharing your internet connection with people from there. You don't have any associates in Saudi Arabia, and you have no intention of ever going to Saudi Arabia.

And let's say that Saudi Arabia passed a law that said VPN providers had to block some kind of content, like maybe banning all access to content about your favorite band.

How is this going to affect the VPN service you provide to the other computers?

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[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 39 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

And wouldn't you know it, anything that disagrees with the current regime is piracy.

[–] hardcoreufo@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Not just piracy. Woke piracy.

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[–] SecretiveVault@lemmy.zip 37 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] minorkeys@sh.itjust.works 25 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

We're just not allowed to use computers in any way that actually benefits us, anymore? Digital prison man.

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[–] echodot@feddit.uk 22 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

But surely the whole point of using the VPN is to use one that's outside of U.S authority?

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[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Darrell Issa out of California appears to have proposed this, I assume because he is not seeking re-election.

Who wants to take a bet he is getting paid for it?

[–] vinnymac@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago

He is getting paid. Not only has the Motion Picture Association contributed to political campaigns but it very recently gave awards and money to two politicians that promote their interests

For specifics on donations see: https://myreptracker.com/campaign-finance/committees/C00139519/motion-picture-association-inc-political-action-committee-mpaamerica-pac

In 2025, the MPA gave Chris Coons its Industry Champion Award and also honored Darrell Issa. MPA CEO Charles Rivkin described Coons as a “trusted partner” and praised Issa as a “true partner” on matters important to film and television.

It’s very basic corruption in broad daylight, and it’s pretty common in US politics today. As far as I know, you can’t prove corruption in court without some form of wiretapping or paper trail, which is trivial for them to avoid. So they’ll never get in trouble for being absolute utter dog shit human beings.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago

My ISP wondering why I only ever access 5 servers in Switzerland, Sweden, Denmark, Belgium and Finland

[–] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 18 points 1 week ago

Ban the RIAA and MPAA.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 17 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

The Corrupt Empire of America at it again.

[–] unitedwithme@lemmy.today 10 points 2 weeks ago

I think they are copying what France and Germany are trying to do and make it worse.

[–] DutchJ@lemmy.zip 12 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)
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[–] ramius345@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Time to buy a vps and put wireguard on it.

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[–] Reddfugee42@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago
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