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[–] SpruceBringsteen@lemmy.world 86 points 1 week ago (1 children)

For all their faults Blizzard has never made a bad cinematic.

[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago
[–] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 55 points 1 week ago (1 children)

StarCraft II is one of my favorite games ever, but I have no faith in modern Blizzard to make a game that isn't wrapped in trappings that would piss me off. Back in 2010, it was extremely annoying that the game required an internet connection and made us go through all sorts of wacky solutions just to have a LAN party. Nowadays, an online-only game is a non-starter for me. The story in SC2 jumped the shark after the Wings of Liberty campaign anyway.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

they got bought out. diablo is pretty much a disaster

[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I played through Diablo 4, and honestly, the frustrating part is that there’s a genuinely good game buried underneath all the live-service bullshit.

The core gameplay works. The combat feels good, the classes are fun, the world is well designed, and there’s a solid Diablo game in there. If Blizzard had simply made it a traditional single-player Diablo game with optional online multiplayer, I think it could have been fucking phenomenal.

Instead, they decided they needed the live-service model.

And that created a massive problem: there was barely an endgame. Once you finished the campaign, the game basically became a loop of running the same types of activities over and over again, waiting for Blizzard to drip-feed additional content through seasons and updates. The live-service content wasn't arriving quickly enough to justify the structure they'd built the entire game around.

That's what pisses me off about modern game development. Publishers keep chasing the idea that every game needs to become an endlessly monetized platform. Sony wants it. EA wants it. Everyone wants the next Fortnite or Destiny, despite the fact that most of them can't actually pull it off.

Diablo 4 didn't need to be a live service.

It just needed to be a really fucking good Diablo game.

There was a damn good game in there. They just built the wrong fucking business model around it.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 5 points 1 week ago

that is true, the lack of content after endgame is lacking.

[–] thr0w4w4y2@sh.itjust.works 36 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Bold of them to assume that there will still be electricity, world wide web and freedom to play video games in 2030

[–] ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Or a Blizzard, with the way Microsoft is handling their gaming division...

[–] ChaosSpectre@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Blizzard is apparently their top earner, even more than Activision, so I would hope ms isn't stupid enough to shutter them

[–] Tanoh@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

Microsoft: hold my beer!

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 1 week ago (4 children)

A game being announced for years in the future and all they have to show is a cinematic screams vaporware to me

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 28 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I remember the last time Blizzard announced a really cool StarCraft shooter. Anyone else play StarCraft Ghost? No? Yeah, exactly.

[–] MilitantAtheist@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

I've played StarCraft Ghost at E3. So I have that going for me.

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[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

remember diablo immortal, that was just a money grab.

[–] jestho@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 week ago

That just flopped because we didn't have phones

[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Dude. Don't you have a cell phone?!?

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[–] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago (3 children)

The cinematic was fire, but I wasn't getting "open world shooter" from it. Rather, I thought this was "Helldivers 2 with Starcraft window dressing," which would be awesome I won't lie.

[–] absquatulate@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Same. Smells like a (fairly generic) co-op shooter to me. It might end up being good, but with the state of blizzard and microsoft these days I'm not really excited for this.

[–] SpruceBringsteen@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

I'd love a Helldivers type game where I don't have to worry about it frying my computer. A CTD or something I can stomach, but a full system freeze? In this economy?

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[–] Die4Ever@retrolemmy.com 27 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)
[–] Salamanderwizard@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ah well, I'm out. Love the cinematic, but man I would've loved another star craft rts that was refined or better.

[–] Die4Ever@retrolemmy.com 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I have no faith that current Blizzard would be able to beat StarCraft 2 anyways, they would just hurt the scene by dividing the playerbase more and SC3 would likely fizzle out sooner

[–] Salamanderwizard@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Ain't it a shame. Makes ya wonder if the folks who make these games actually even play em.

Hell, that should be a law for gaming. You have to play your game at least 3 to 4 times a month atleast to see the bullshit and fix it.

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[–] Ertain@feddit.online 18 points 1 week ago (3 children)

So it's ~~the sequel~~ like Starcraft Ghost?

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago

Well, so far, they're both exactly as released.

[–] ieightpi@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Right? that's the first thing that came to mind.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 1 week ago

so its repurposing starcraft ghost.

Blizzard can go fuck them self. I'm a big Starcraft fan. And i'm not going to buy anything from them. And i suggest everyone else does the same.

[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (3 children)

It's an open-world shooter.

Christ on a stick.

They're hounding after that damned MMO shit like every other publisher is. Sony wants it, EA wants it, everyone wants it, and nobody can fucking make it work. Hell, even Bungie couldn't pull it off with Marathon.

Why do they keep letting the market dictate what kind of games they should make? Just make a good fucking game. Stop consulting some market specialist who tells you, "Well, gamers are really interested in live-service engagement loops right now." No shit, Brad. Gamers are also interested in games that are actually fun.

It's like every publisher looks at the last five disasters and says, "Okay, but what if WE do it?"

Like it hasn't worked for literally any of them. Why would it suddenly work for a fucking megacorp like Blizzard?

And it's coming out in four fucking years.

Four years!

I don't care what's coming out in four years! I barely know what I'm doing next fucking Tuesday. You're telling me I should get excited about a game that won't exist until 2030?

I'm sure they'll announce Diablo 5 in 2069 and tell us it's going to revolutionize the genre with an innovative blockchain-enabled social extraction MMO where you spend 45 minutes farming a dungeon just to unlock the ability to farm another dungeon.

Just make a good goddamned game.

That's it.

You don't need to reinvent the fucking industry. You don't need a market trend. You don't need an engagement strategist. You don't need a ten-year roadmap.

Make a good game.

Then make another one.

Jesus Christ.

[–] kyTdKZx9PtDQ9e56u06@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Surprise. They announced Diablo 5.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 5 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Is that also an open world shooter? 🤔

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[–] spacegoat@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

This gets an exasperated “meh” from me

[–] bluelabel@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Remind me to be excited in 4 years.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 7 points 1 week ago

remember ghost, peppridge farm doesnt.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If they were announcing Starcraft 3 (and it was going to be an RTS game) I can understand there being some excitement around it even four years in advance because there's so few RTS games being made.

But a Starcraft shooter? Meh.

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[–] False@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Would have been nice to see some gameplay

[–] Die4Ever@retrolemmy.com 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I doubt they have any gameplay that could be shown yet

[–] Poopfeast420@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 week ago

For me, the 2030 release date (+eventual delays) lines up with Microsoft's recent push/wish for more games in their big franchises a couple of months ago, so this is probably still in some kind of pre-production.

[–] Redacted@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Please god i wish they would just release more sc2 coop commamders and missions.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

i found it odd they suddenly stopped it early in the pandemic, guess they got lazy and worked on diablo instead.

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[–] Armok_the_bunny@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Genuine question, what was the last time Blizzard released an actually good game, much less a new good game? Because by my reckoning it was over a decade ago with Overwatch, and that leaves me with exactly zero expectation that anything they could make would be with the time to play it.

[–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Doesn’t the red armor means he’s a Firebat? The rifle going dry would explain that, those Overlords looked menacing as hell too

[–] redhorsejacket@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Nah, that.was just a classic set of Marine armor, but in Terran Dominion colors, as opposed to the more typical good guy blue. Given the speaker in the trailer sounds a lot like Arcturus Mengsk in full Emperor mode, I'm guessing that this game takes place in between SC 1&2. Maybe even during the Brood War? Seems like that would make sense for their open world shooter set up.

[–] nogooduser@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I was thinking that it was going to be a mobile game until the Xbox logo at the end of the

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[–] darkmogool@feddit.org 2 points 1 week ago

Oh look… It's 40K Space Marine

[–] MrOtingocni@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

And the crowd goes mild!

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