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[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 2 points 37 minutes ago* (last edited 37 minutes ago)

In their mind, all costs should be born by the consumer (and employees, of course), and none taken from their profits.

Forever.

They demand higher profits every quarter. It has to come from somewhere, and it won't be from their pile of gold.

This is why our government shouldn't base policy on what they want. They want everything, it's a given. We know

Mamdani creates delivery network for NY, uses delivery revenue to pay livable salaries for drivers instead of buying himself a mega-yacht.

[–] BillCheddar@lemmy.world 5 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Ever notice that these propagandizing assholes never even bother to cite their lies anymore?

Dude just writes "FOX said, trust me" and they eat it up.

Same shit happens on the left. Someone just says something, attributes it without a link, and the comments section eats it up, true or not.

[–] MBech@feddit.dk 1 points 1 hour ago

Yea I'm gonna need a source for all that.

[–] toxicbubble@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

oh no how will new york city survive?? 😌

[–] Avicenna@programming.dev 16 points 4 hours ago

he wasn't this concerned with tariffs increasing prices. probably was convinced to remove the tariffs warning after someone told him he would get double paid eventually.

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Propaganda softens it even, just say threats of voluntary harm and theft.

[–] BillyClark@piefed.social 33 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

One of the best arguments against this type of propaganda is to look at what actually happened in places where they treat their workers more fairly.

Like, you hear people say that fast food would become prohibitively expensive if we raise the minimum wage, but when you look at countries where they have decent minimum wages, the fast food there is basically the same price. Maybe pennies more.

The best way to combat this propaganda is simply to experiment or call their bluff. You know, try it out and see what actually happens. When NYC does this and nothing bad happens, maybe that will be a clue to other cities.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 10 points 4 hours ago

Like, you hear people say that fast food would become prohibitively expensive if we raise the minimum wage

You don't even have to scale this to countries. Cities with a higher min wage have proven better results.

[–] Kurtismayfield@lemmy.zip 11 points 5 hours ago

All you have to say is Scandinavia. Any corporatist concern trolling can be countered by a policy in a Scandinavian country.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 16 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Fast food is a crazy example they point to. You'll spend 12-15 dollars a person easily at fast food places these days, and they serve hundreds of customer an hour. Giving the entire staff a $15/hr raise would be an extra 2-4% to the cost of a meal.

If you have 5 employees working the shop and average 100 meals an hour, you're looking at an extra $0.75 per meal to give each employee and additional $15/hour - which is a life-changing raise at a cost customers wouldn't even notice.

[–] daychilde@lemmy.world 22 points 5 hours ago

Fox News is the very definition of billionaie propaganda.

[–] kablez@lemmy.world 12 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Translation: FOX News is promoting threats of econonomic terrorism against the general public on behalf of Jeff Bezos

Those amazon workers don't even work for amazon, they work for contractors who pay way under the typical wage of UPS and FedEx.

[–] Akuchimoya@startrek.website 39 points 8 hours ago (6 children)

What about the fact that it's ok if deliveries are slower? How many of the things that people buy online, whether from Amazon or not, actually need to be same day or next day? If there were options for "just sometime in the next month", I'd chose that.

Of course, I understand that be a logistics nightmare to schedule, I'm only making the argument that delivery speed is a more a luxury than necessity. As is Amazon itself.

[–] myyass@lemmy.world 1 points 41 minutes ago

It's actually devastating to society. The whole Amazon delivery mindset is a plague that affects so many people now.

A customer buys a used piece of equipment off ebay, mind you something big enough to go on a skid, and within the day they buy it; "Is it shipped yet? I need the tracking number. When will it be here?" I hate these morons.

This mentality bleeds into repair work as well, which I got tired of, I'm just going to do something else for work. One ~~cunt~~ I meant customer told me she needs this fixed yesterday. I intentionally took my time. Same goes for the idiots that call me and ask if I can come out right now, or "can you come in at 4AM before we open to fix this machine?" Like yeah, I'm going to go to the shop, pick up tools and parts at 2AM, then drive an an hour to your restaurant so I can make pretty much minimum wage---(taxes, fuel, insurance, wear and tear on my car, billing, inventory, part shopping, etc, all the invisible expenses) and then of course having to justify why I charge so much to fix something in minutes. Yeah like the over a decade of experience was just given to me on a flash stick that shoved up my yass and I learned everything instantly.

It wasn't like this when I first started doing this kind of a job. People were more relaxed. I'm keeping doing repair work to a minimum, and I work on a lot of really expensive equipment. And there's a severe shortage of people that do what I do. Part of it is the expenses, part of it is everyone's Amazon like mentality. And don't forget the "why does this cost so much more for the same work you did two years ago." Sigh. Trade work was fun but the last few years I can't be bothered anymore. Sorry for the rant.

[–] False@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

Amazon actually does have that option for deliveries. It's typically labeled either "Amazon Day" (where they try to group orders into fewer deliveries / boxes, though it's pretty mixed on that), or No Rush (where it might be a week out and they give you a dollar credit for something as an incentive).

Though that's usually more "in the next week or so" than "next month"

[–] Redditmodstouchgrass@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 hours ago

Did they start recently? I haven't seen anything like that.

[–] ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip 1 points 4 hours ago

This option has always been a huge scam. Whenever I choose it, Amazon waits until that day to even ship the thing, then it takes an extra day or two on top of the voluntary initial delay. So my 2 day delivery turns into 6-7 days

The one time I used that option I ended up with 3 separate deliveries on the same day

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[–] Smug_Marmot@lemmy.zip 5 points 5 hours ago

Wait, he only gave her a $5M ring? Was he only applying taxable income to the two-month rule? /s

[–] Sunspear@piefed.social 24 points 8 hours ago (6 children)

$600 a year... on extra delivery costs on the average household?

... How much are americans ordering online?

[–] BillyClark@piefed.social 1 points 1 hour ago

Obviously as think link is an image of a tweet, I don't have the original article to reference.

But it says "average household delivery costs," so it's quite likely that it doesn't just include Amazon or other online ordering.

In order to make their point as persuasive as possible, they likely fudged the numbers and included all deliveries. Saying things like, "Well, UPS would save money by contracting the last mile, as well, so the fact that this stops them from doing that is a cost for New Yorkers."

Anything that makes the number larger and has any sort of stupid excuse would be enough. If the number is larger, they can scare people and make it more likely that they get their way.

[–] BillCheddar@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Other than groceries, I do almost all of my shopping online and delivered.

Soap, deodorant, toothpaste all that kinda thing. Household cleaners. Cat food, litter, supplies. Clothes, shoes, etc.

I work a shitload of hours (also online, from home) and I live miles from the nearest town.

EX: If I want to drive through and get a McGross burger and a diet coke, it's a 30 minute round trip. The closest non-grocery stores are a 30 min drive away, or an hour round trip plus shopping time.

Or I can do three clicks and someone brings me the same shit within a few days. 99.5% of the time, that is sufficient.

[–] bold_atlas@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

My online orders dropped off to basically nothing since the tariffs began. Now I buy EVERYTHING from brick and mortar just like the good old days.

And I'm never going back to the online shopping horse shit either. At least with stores you can shoplift guilt free with zero carbon footprint.

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[–] Unpigged@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

The only way to working class to win is to hijack the capitalism itself. Workers have to create pressure on the stock prices of large corporations themselves through collective action.

[–] IronBird@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

eh, biggest misunderstanding the left has is that anyone actually gives a fuck about shareholders. unless you have a 10%+ stake nobody gives a fuck about you as a shareholder, they exist to hold bags. and with how the US casino is setup specifically, ultimately price action is dictated by whoever has the most $ at play (with the lowest cost average, and assuming fundementals don't assert themselves)

what workers need to do is learn the value of their labor...which is why US oligarchs have spent so much effort the last 5 decades killing public education (and before that, they designed it around growing compliant factory workers). stupid/purposefully misinformed people are easy to control

[–] chewypoops@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

Andy Jassy is the luckyest Billionaire CEO alive, since leftists have literally never heard of him and throw all their criticisms of Amazon at his predecessor...

[–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 13 points 8 hours ago

Nit. We seriously need to divorce benefits from employment. Especially healthcare. I still hear people say the company pays $X for my healthcare. No fuck they do not. You have a total compensation package that includes the cash part of your salary as well as how much of what could have been your cash part was diverted to pay for healthcare. Have you ever been handed a piece of paper where they itemize your pay? You get $40k and then there’s another line where it says $10k for healthcare etc so they really pay you $50k? Well on the one hand that’s true. The company pays you. You pay for everything else. You just don’t see all of it. They usually give you that paper during raise time to justify lower raises.

We need a mental shift in this country. People need to stop believing companies give you stuff.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 7 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

What he is really saying is that he can't offer the same level of service at the same cost - and still maintain his OBSCENE profit margin.

I'm tired of these Sociopathic Oligarchs acting like they are entitled to those ridiculous levels of profit, and any "solutions" we suggest need to preserve their profits FIRST, then somehow solve our problems after that.

No, those outrageous profits are the EXACT problem. Those profits should have been shared by the workers who earned them, instead of going 100% to the guy at the top who did literally nothing to earn it.

So he will maintain the same level of service, at the same costs, and he will just have to buy one less yacht, or private jet, or Italian Palazzo this year.

[–] Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world 1 points 56 minutes ago

Jeff Bezos hasn’t been in charge of Amazon in like 5 years dude.

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