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[–] Tiempo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 48 points 4 days ago (4 children)

What is worst is that if we look deeper, we find out that everything is just turning the mill

The only advance would be solar that was capable of not using a mill that have to turn.... Everything else? Just a fucking mill

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 28 points 4 days ago (2 children)

We rotate around the sun, though

[–] Tiempo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 4 days ago

Fucking damn it!

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[–] Photonic@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Looks like the Dutchies were right in the first place

[–] Gonzako@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago

Nah, the dutchies also invented the stock market.

[–] thevoidzero@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

Solar and batteries (chemical). If we could harness lightening then that's come without mechanical energy as well. There's biological energy as well, we don't have a way to extract it directly as electricity but it exists

Mechanical and heat is just the most common way to get electricity for us at the moment.

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[–] marcos@lemmy.world 55 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Most new clean energy does not use boiling water.

[–] Remember_the_tooth@lemmy.world 36 points 5 days ago

Pushing electrons? Really? Man of your talents?

[–] fullsquare@awful.systems 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

there is a power generation scheme that uses high temperature fuel cells. optimally it could run on hydrogen only, but because it runs hot, it is able to take almost any flammable gas, along with some steam, and it forms hydrogen internally, then oxidizes it. this alone generates bulk of electricity, but offgas is hot, so it goes to heat exchanger which boils water, which then turns steam turbine

[–] grue@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago (1 children)

That's just burning a hydrocarbon with extra steps.

[–] fullsquare@awful.systems 11 points 5 days ago

it replaces gas turbine with a fuel cell, which is a good couple % more efficient than CCGT. still under development. there is also another variant where hot offgas is generated under pressure and expanded directly. no steam, same effect

[–] zqwzzle@lemmy.ca 39 points 5 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Fun fact time oklo is the only known instance of a naturally occurring fission reactor.

[–] flambonkscious@sh.itjust.works 10 points 4 days ago

Wow, that's mental

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[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 35 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Face it, all power is water, all stories are Hamlet, all food is grass, and all music is Pachelbel's Canon. Reality's budget is running out and it's having to reuse assets.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I'd love to see someone try to explain how As You Like It is Hamlet

[–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 7 points 4 days ago

Both explore how characters must mask their true identities to survive a corrupt patriarchal system managed by a villainous uncle?

[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 2 points 3 days ago

Modern society as asset flip

[–] Sheldan@lemmy.world 28 points 5 days ago

I love the description of PV to be basically 'outsourced fusion'

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Boiling water is the only reasonable way to turn heat into electricity.

[–] neuromorph@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago (4 children)
[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 14 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Actually there's also the mirror based solar which boils water in a central column.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It's cooler than that; they use the heat to make molten salt, then use a heat exchanger to boil water with that, the salt gets stupid hot and holds energy into the night.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sounds like it's hotter than that not cooler

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago

coincidentally, just saw a youtube short with more crazy shit

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/l3CFqCgmumw

they mix three salts together to control the melting temperature so it's still hot but not as hard on the equipment.

[–] Smaile@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

its basically a bowl of water made of solar panels, i mean its not a bad idea at all but its nothing crazy either, probably a bitch to maintain tho.

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Photovoltaic panels don't turn heat into electricity. It turns light into electricity.

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[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Solar and wind biggest energy revolution is not needing to boil water

[–] CatAssTrophy@safest.space 2 points 3 days ago

Hydro doesn't boil water, either. Just moves it around.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 3 points 4 days ago

Solar uses radiation not just heat.

[–] dan69@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I’d like to thank some post on Mastadon, which really boiled down how and what a nuclear power plant works to provide power.. the little things.

You've probably heard of an internal combustion engine, like what power cars and airplanes. Well there's such a thing as an external combustion engine - a steam engine. A steam engine just needs some source of high pressure steam, the source of heat you find to boil the necessary water is almost a separate problem. You could use a wood fire, a coal fire, an oil fire, a natural gas fire. I've seen a small steam engine that runs on a tea candle. Heat from a geothermal vent, concentrated sunlight, or nuclear power.

How about a diesel engine? Large oceangoing vessels with 2-stroke diesel engines the size of a duplex put out a lot of waste heat, plenty enough to boil water and run a steam turbine engine. The diesel engine provides main propulsion, the steam engine powered by its exhaust provides electricity. Ships with such a system can shut down their aux engines while underway saving tons of fuel per voyage.

[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Can't improve on perfection.

[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 3 points 3 days ago

Burgeoning supercritical CO2 turbine technology would like a word.

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