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AI, in this case, refers to LLMs, GPT technology, and anything listed as "AI" meant to increase market valuations.

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Just launched: https://noailist.org/ - support projects that don't use AI. This is a website that will be a list of projects that have specifically chosen not to use AI. Submit your project today.

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[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What is the content of your website licensed as?

People will be much more willing to contribute if you add the licensing info in the footer.

I recommend CC BY-SA. It's what Wikipedia uses.

[–] stuartml@piefed.social 1 points 3 hours ago

Ok, I will try to add that on there, thank you.

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

noailogo

I wanted an AI free logo, so I hired a freelancer.

I'm 99% sure the logo they gave me was AI. It didn't even occur to me that artists would be using AI :/

[–] Landless2029@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I'd demand the design file they used as well.

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 2 points 19 hours ago

That would require me to use Illustrator. I only use inkscape

[–] stuartml@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago

Let me know the specifics of your AI free logo, and I'll see what I can come up with.

[–] als@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm surprised that nobody has linked this here: https://codeberg.org/ethical-foss/open-slopware

It's over-eager to label as slop in places but provides sources and often AI-free alternatives.

[–] bold_omi@lemmy.today 4 points 1 day ago

I use that.

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (2 children)

What I really want is a no AI index for investing in companies that don’t use AI.

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 3 points 1 day ago

If you find one, please let us know

[–] stuartml@piefed.social 3 points 1 day ago

Companies such as this are welcome to submit / add their info to noailist.org

[–] derbolle@lemmy.world 32 points 2 days ago (2 children)

ironic that this website uses ghost, which is classified as "shitty" on the ai dirty list.

leaves a bit of a bad taste for the project

[–] stuartml@piefed.social 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Any sources could help direct the future of the project

[–] derbolle@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

could you specify what exactly you mean by that? i don't understand your reply, sorry about that

[–] stuartml@piefed.social 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

Sure, ghost may be listed as dirty on that website, but there are no links to actual evidence, despite it being listed as cited, if there are credible citations I would consider building this project away from ghost.

Is telling new hires they will get access to the latest AI tools acceptable as evidence? "💻 Hardware A brand new MacBook Pro + a budget for office setup and the latest AI tools."

https://careers.ghost.org/staff-product-engineer/en This is the first entry for Ghost.

[–] femtek@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 2 days ago

Soooo, if there are no sources for it why is it labeled dirty? Can I just go in and label everything in existence as dirty and then it's on others to make the effort to defend it?

[–] RodgeGrabTheCat@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I also thought their weren't sources on that site a few days ago.

Click on "view citation" now click on the very small text up next to or just below the date. Its not very obvious.

[–] stuartml@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The view citation has no supporting evidence.

[–] RodgeGrabTheCat@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Let's take Ghost as an example. Click on the first entry's "view citation" button. Now click on the red circle as shown in the picture.

[–] stuartml@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Thanks for taking the time to do this, why hide the source link so badly? I did read their page, and it does say the quoted text. Due to this, I will be considering moving away from using Ghost, firstly I will contact Ghost to see what their stance is.

No worries. Plenty of Lemmy users helped me with this a couple days ago. It felt right to pay it forward.

[–] Greg@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 days ago

Build it with Fable 🤷‍♂️

[–] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I can't find the dirty ai list, could you please link it here?

[–] dudesss@piefed.ca 24 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This website is hard to understand. I see no lists, there is a search box. I don't see categories to choose. It feels very empty.

[–] stuartml@piefed.social 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Thank you for your feedback, the reason why is because it was launched today, new categories and projects will be listed as they arrive. So yes, it is brand new.

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 4 points 1 day ago

You can preload content from the other no-AI lists.

There's one on codeberg called slop free

[–] FlordaMan@lemmy.world 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The zig language has a non-AI contribution policy: https://ziglang.org/code-of-conduct/

[–] stuartml@piefed.social 8 points 2 days ago

Thank you, I have emailed them (hopefully I have the email correct) to request permission to be included.

[–] GMac@feddit.org 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Site wants to run javascript from 5 different domains and doesnt work with just the site domain permitted.

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Great extension that

[–] stuartml@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Thanks for the feedback, the javascript might be part of the Ghost theme. When you said "doesnt work with just the site domain permitted." - could you please explain this part for me? I might consider moving away from Ghost if it has multiple problems.

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 2 points 1 day ago

Hardened web browsers frequently block loading js files from third party domains.

[–] GMac@feddit.org 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Search box on mobile browser did not trigger keyboard or any option to paste clipboard. No search possible.

[–] stuartml@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago

Thank you, this is helpful to know.

[–] cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Is this your project?

I recently discovered an alternative to Google Docs called Ellipsus, and their anti-AI policy is pretty inspiring. Worth looking at. Service is freemium.

[–] stuartml@piefed.social 16 points 2 days ago

Yes it is, I've emailed them asking if they would like to be included on the website. Thank you!

[–] uuj8za@piefed.social 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

... For these reasons, we will never integrate or use generative AI within Ellipsus.

https://ellipsus.com/generative-ai

Yes, that's the page I meant. My wife hates AI (trying to get her to join Lemmy and subscribe to this comm). I sent her this link.

[–] Crozekiel@lemmy.zip 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Why build the website before you've got anything to put on it? This is weird. It feels like low-effort "capitalization" on the anti-AI bandwagon.

[–] stuartml@piefed.social 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I built this partly because I saw nobody else started the project. I've only recently myself decided to stop using AI, so its not some kind of capitalization. Sometimes starting a project is the hardest part. It is a brand new project, so there are hardly any listings. In order for a project like this to grow, it needs to be shared on the web, hence this posting. I'd be happy to hear anywhere else I can post it, or any feedback on how to improve the project.

[–] Zarobi@aussie.zone 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The hardest part of a new project is getting data to put on it, and make it worth using, in my experience… It's one of those catch-22 where people only use it if people already are using it. I'd recommend focusing on getting a lot of content added as quickly as possible.

I respect asking permission for companies to be listed there, but it's a very slow process, and many will never reply.

[–] stuartml@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago

I thought about adding projects without asking for permission, but it doesn't seem right, they might not agree with all the reasons why a project might not use ai listed on the website too.

[–] stuartml@piefed.social 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

If you have a project, or know a project that has publicly chosen not to use AI, please share it here.
(Software, Artists, Bands, Games, Business, Organization, etc).

[–] RodgeGrabTheCat@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You can get a lot of projects from https://aidirtylist.info/entities/rating-desc/1/ although I've seen some pretty bad takes. Example: people who like an anti-ai book love ai, according to the dirty list.

[–] stuartml@piefed.social 2 points 2 days ago

Interesting website, I'll take a look, thanks