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[–] HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

Most everything that's taught as the US "defending itself" against a foreign aggressor.

Yes, there are some specific instances the US legitimately needed to defend itself. However, this narrative that the US, especially as its promoted under the guise of "respecting our troops", is mostly false.

Most wars the US fought were imperial and fought for the ambitions of American oligarchs.

I'd actually argue the narrative that's central to US propaganda, that "soldiers fight for our freedom" is extremely harmful to said soldiers themselves. Their service and sometimes lives are wasted on the rich, not for freedom. People should really stop joining the military until that changes.

[–] dan1101@lemmy.world 73 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Checks and balances in the US government. Government of the people, by the people, and for the people. Constitutional rights being unassailable.

All these are lies. I think it can be fixed, but it won't be easy.

[–] sunsofold@lemmy.zip 21 points 6 days ago

That's less a lie and more 'teaching the ideal.' The problem isn't learning how the system is supposed to work. That's how you learn to be a mechanic. You learn how an engine is supposed to work so you can spot where it's gone wrong. The issue is more one of there are millions of people and they get 10 minutes on how it's supposed to work and then only 3 of them go into politics and learn how it actually works/doesn't work. Democracy requires more than a one week chapter on civics, once a year. We all have to be mechanics, or at least be prepared to try.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

I think it can be fixed

I mean, good luck. The Principle-Agent Problem is a classic of sociology, particularly with respect to business. If you can solve it, there's a Nobel in Economics waiting for you.

Democracy is an attempt at aligning in the interests of the plurality principles with their government agencies. But there's obviously a whole lot of flaws with democracy generally speaking, even before you get into the particulars of the American system.

I do think that the Lockean Social Contract, as the foundation for any governmental system, is a more interesting and more well-thought-out concept to explore than the mythology surrounding the American three-branch system. Chomsky's Manufacturing Consent does an excellent job of breaking down how a public body can be turned against its own interests. Zinn's People's History gives a ton of insight into the underbelly of the American political beast and how people respond to industrial and state oppression. State and Revolution does an excellent job of describing the role of the state in society and how it can best be dismantled.

But the endless debate around whether US Government works as described or intended really loses the forest of social economy for the ideological tent post trees. Fetishization of the US system only contributes to its rot and our own downfall.

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[–] frankenswine@lemmy.world 31 points 6 days ago (1 children)
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[–] polysexualstick@lemmy.world 27 points 6 days ago (5 children)

In Germany, a lot of the times it's taught that we barely did colonialism. Like, "colonialism was bad but it was mostly other countries". Meanwhile, in reality, German colonialism saw the first mayor genocide of the 21st century.

[–] nullspace@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] polysexualstick@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Oh god, sometimes I feel like my English is pretty good and then stuff like this happens... :D

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[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 34 points 6 days ago (2 children)

"Communism is when the government does stuff."

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I remember my first description of communism from a teacher in 5th grade.

"The government can force you to work in any field they decide. If they need dentists, they might just force you go to dentists school for 4 years. If after that, they decide they need plumbers, they will send you to plumber school and you will be a plumber. You don't get to choose. If you don't like it, they will send you to Siberia, which is a bad place."

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[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yeah they don't teach this in social studies and any school in America.

They actually teach what socialism is and what communism is. That's where I learned it.

And why I know the difference between the two and what the definitions are both of these things.

[–] polysexualstick@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

In German schools, horseshoe theory is pretty much taught as a fact.

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[–] winkledinkle@sh.itjust.works 13 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Pretty much every history class not so subtly points you to the conclusion that the US had racism, it was bad, but we defeated it so people complaining now are just spoiled.

...when I was a kid. That shit is probably way worse now.

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[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 26 points 6 days ago (6 children)

Columbus discovered America.

At least this is what I was taught when I was in elementary school back in the '90s.

I have no idea if it's changed thus far.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It's especially funny since dude never even touched USA, but USA is racist/genocidal enough to worship dude anyway.

[–] DanceMomsSavedMe@lemmy.zip 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I fucking hate Columbus day.

Let's pop open the diaraies of his crew mates and him and do a read a loud, then! Let's talk about it.

I passionately hate Christopher Columbus and the worship of him.

[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I also despise the fact that it's a national holiday here in the States. I'm not even sure precisely what it is that we're celebrating.

I mean if we're going to commemorate explorers why not Marco Polo or Ponce de Leon or Lief Erikson.

[–] Somsphet@lemmy.zip 7 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Columbus was the first European to explore Cuban isles. Lief Erickson explored Newfoundland about 400 years before I believe.

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[–] boaratio@lemmy.world 38 points 6 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

Pictures of the civil rights movement are in black and white even though color photography existed for decades. They're only in black and white to make kids think it was longer ago than it was.

[–] boaratio@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Thanks to everyone pointing out that teaching racism was more expensive if it was in color. Thanks for missing the point.

Edit: There are color photos of the civil rights movements, but my middle school textbooks chose to only use the black and white ones of people getting shot with fire hoses and beaten with billy clubs. Every other page of this hard bound textbook had color pictures in it, so saying it would cost more is a straw man argument. Strange coincidence. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/06/20/fact-check-most-civil-rights-era-images-werent-made-color/3210472001/

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 43 points 6 days ago

Color photos were a thing, but they were significantly more expensive than black and white until around the 1970s. They were mostly saved for special occasions.

Plus, news papers didn't really do much full color until the 80s. Before the mid 50s it was basically just the comic pages that had color. It was the launch of USA Today in 82 that popularized the way newspapers use color today.

Photographers capturing events shoot a lot of film, and there was no compelling reason to shoot in color at the time.

It's almost certainly isn't a conspiracy to make students think it happened a long time ago.

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[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

That different parts of your tongue taste different things.

When I was little, we did an experiment where we were supposed to "feel" which part of our tongue we were tasting things with, and I was like, "pretty sure I taste it everywhere". That teacher was fired for her anger issues at the end of the year, and that was certianly one of the moments where it came out, haha.

[–] NABDad@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago (2 children)

The annual lie: Next year isn't going to be as easy as this year!

Middle School will be harder than Elementary School.

Junior High will be harder than Middle School.

Senior High will be harder than Junior High.

College will be harder than Senior High.

Working a real job will be harder than School.

[–] HerbGrower@slrpnk.net 6 points 5 days ago

I frequently wanted to kill myself, the idea work would be even worse than school really didnt help because school was absolutely awful. So it will only get worse isn't a great message.

[–] catboy_slim@lemmy.zip 6 points 5 days ago (3 children)

"They won't take late work"

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

You don't want that to go on your permanent record.

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[–] psud@aussie.zone 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)

That a, e, i, o and u were the only vowels. So what's the vowel in sky?

I got marked incorrect for answering "a, e, i, o, u, and sometimes y"

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[–] fartographer@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago

Texas History

[–] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 6 days ago

The bavarian socialist republic was a chaotic murderouse revolutionarny group that had to be crushed by the military because they were murdering people just for the fun of it and it was not supported by the people.

The exact opposite is the case. The people were big in support of it, it would have lead to full pure democracy but the SPD corrupted and destroyed they saw it as a threat to their perfered order of a none direct democracy with still clear societal seperation of wealthy and the rest

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