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[–] Smaile@lemmy.ca 13 points 3 days ago

RIP. THEM. OUT.

the police have no recourse other then braking the law themselves arresting you if you do.

and also those police are braking the law by useing those devices.

[–] tristynalxander@mander.xyz 51 points 4 days ago (1 children)

How can we claim consent of the governed when the governed cannot say no?

Electoral Democracy has four required mechanism: Ranked Voting, Lottery Option, Recall Mechanism, Randomized Districting. The United States does not qualify as a democracy. Few of the states, cities, and counties within it are even on the democratic spectrum with one of those mechanisms.

Happy 250th our government is illegitimate.

[–] Mossheart@lemmy.ca 13 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Correct. Just competitive authoritarianism at this point.

[–] tristynalxander@mander.xyz 13 points 4 days ago (4 children)

I'm fond of the phrase "electoral oligarchy".

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[–] BigTuffAl@lemmy.zip 177 points 4 days ago (8 children)

Since they are operating illegally, does that mean we can just take them? They have RAM.

[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 34 points 4 days ago (1 children)

And, I believe, those models have TPUs.

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 26 points 4 days ago

And huge amounts of copper.

they have RAM

Wait what?

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[–] kibblebits@quokk.au 111 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You thought the world was gonna just go back to laws being obeyed?

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 34 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (5 children)

Liberal Democracy has always been like this. You can vote for what business wants to prove it's popular. But a vote against is "mob rule", so it gets ignored

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[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago (1 children)

LOL! Freedom!!! Right? I visited Cleveland once and only once.

[–] NM_Gringo@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That's not totally fair to Cleveland. They terminated the contract, Flock just kept right on recording. The same thing happened in many other cities. When maintenance crews service the lights, they should remove the cameras. Keep them in storage until Flock comes to get them.

[–] bagsy@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They could run an add in the newspaper. "Free cameras, first come, first serve". They would be down in 20 minutes.

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[–] GreenBeard@lemmy.ca 90 points 4 days ago (23 children)

It's the year of our lord 2026. Rule of Law is dead. The other Golden Rule is now supreme: He who has the gold, makes the rules.

[–] cecilkorik@lemmy.ca 40 points 4 days ago

Don't forget about might makes right. What, you didn't want to live in a world where big burly dudes with guns protecting wealthy pedophiles tell you what to do?

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[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 25 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (13 children)

Typical. I grew up in Cleveland (not born there, I didn't come from that shallow, murky gene pool), and it truly sucks, and one of the very worst things are the cops. They are literally the worst cops in the nation.

This is the city where three teen girls went missing for a decade. Turned out they were kept hostage in a house directly NEXT DOOR to one of the girls' homes. They had interviewed EVERYBODY in the neighborhood, EXCEPT the weird single guy who lived right next door. After a decade of being raped regularly, one of the girls escaped and they all got free, no thanks to the cops.

It's also where a psychopathic serial killer operated openly in a neighborhood, killing women and burying some of them in his backyard. Others just decomposed in his house. The neighbors complained about the stench for years, and also the blood-curdling screams, and the fact that he would try to grab women off the sidewalk in front and drag them into his house. Finally, a naked bloody woman burst out of the house screaming, and the cops FINALLY checked the guy out and found bodies everywhere.

Cleveland cops (and ALL the surrounding suburbs) are as bad as cops get in this country, and it was one of the primary reasons I left, along with the fact that Clevelanders tend to be pretty dumb, since all the smart ones leave.

And the weather really sucks, too.

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[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 73 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (55 children)

In civilized countries The Flock Camera network is CLEARLY illegal.
My recommendation to USA is to strive to become a civilized country, before caring so much about every single detail that arise from not being a civilized country.
Americans are constantly focusing on the symptoms but never on the disease that cause them. Maybe because Americans are brainwashed to think the insanity going on in USA is normal.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 28 points 4 days ago (5 children)

There’s a lot of money controlling media propaganda, which brainwashes people. Or people are otherwise powerless. You could probably say the same about Russians in Putin’s Russia. Or Chinese under the CCP.

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[–] farmgineer@nord.pub 52 points 4 days ago (7 children)

So the only thing that changed is that the area lost their own access to them at the termination date, but the camera companies still collect that data.

Sounds like the thing to do is take the cameras down

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[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 19 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Then people need to start cutting them down

[–] bagsy@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

Most people dont know the cameras contain about $80 worth of copper and gold.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 42 points 4 days ago (20 children)

Paintball markers.

Make Tippmann proud.

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 24 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Who cares about democratic decisions or the law in the US, anyway?

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[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

It's not vandalism to put a nice opaque piece of cardboard on a solar panel. And no one seems to know how the camera got like that between the time the batteries died and when the technicians found it.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

You know, I like to go fishing. I bring my long fishing pole, and some black plastic bags to contain any trash I happen to see along the way. I like to carry the trash bag fed through the eyelet at the top of my fishing pole. Now, if that bag happens to fall over the top of a flock camera while I'm walking past, enveloping it and drawing the drawstring tight around it, there's a fair chance I won't notice.

If course, I dress for chilly weather with a flappy hat to cover my ears, sunglasses to protect from sun glare, and a covid mask, just to be safe. Of course I never bring my mobile phone when I go fishing. I never seem to catch anything anyway.

[–] quarkquasar@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago (2 children)

This is America, the people serve the government.

The government wants its cameras on to monitor the inmates, who's going to stop them?

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[–] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I heard some cordless power tools could come handy.

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 20 points 4 days ago (9 children)

I have to wonder if it’s possible to fuck these up with a QR code bumper sticker. They are notoriously poorly designed.

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[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 31 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Create a division of local government for supervising the police using flock and suddenly the cameras are full of bullet holes.

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