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Not gonna lie, I don’t think that’s enough recreation space for the number of units there.
And I don’t see any commercial space at all. That’s got to be enough units for several thousand people. Like, think about how much store space would be needed to make sure they could get all their groceries.
I don’t think that’s enough recreation space for the number of units there.
Yeah, I got that impression as well. Looks heavily overbuilt, with the amenities being more there to attract new residents than to serve the community.
And I don’t see any commercial space at all.
Probably because this is a top down view at the center of a ring of impossibly tall housing units, not a skyline view of Hong Kong, a city that's got commercial spaces from seaside to Shenzhen.
I mean, that’s kind a huge issue in Hong Kong, like, how concentrated the commercial areas get. Creates a lot of unnecessarily long travel from housing to commercial, culminating in a lot of pedestrian congestion along stairways, elevators and escalators.
Pedestrian congestion is a big problem in lots of major urban centers. Go down to Shibuya Crossing in Tokyo or Times Square in NYC and you'll find the same problem of big crowds of people clogging areas that weren't designed to accommodate the sheer volume of traffic.
Idk if I'd call it "unnecessarily long travel" so much as "a necessary consequence of this many people living in a limited space". If you don't want that level of crowding, you've got to move outside this hyper-dense city.
I mean, NYC has a fairly healthy level of pedestrian traffic in most areas. Times Square is mostly just full of tourists. I’m not as familiar with Tokyo but my understanding is a a lot of the more dense areas have a sort of 2/3 level layout of commercial, but there is level interconnects or they’re set up in conjunction with transit. So like, there are fairly large underground commercial strips at subway level, or sky bridges between blocks for 2nd story commercial.
They all get backed up during rush hour. It took me ten minutes to get into Shinjuku station one sunny afternoon, because that corner of town was so crammed with people.
Similarly, if you've ever been in the subway tunnels of NYC or DC, you'll know when a game lets out at Madison Square or a parade is happening though the Washington Mall, because these otherwise spacious underground enclaves are stuffed with people.
At some point, you have an issue of induced demand. These urban centers are designed to encourage the free flow of pedestrian traffic and... that's exactly what they create.
Tennis games are 50 vs 50
Not everyone plays tennis and the commercial spaces would be on the first level facing the road, not the inner courtyard. Good complaints in general but not really applicable here.
Pool's closed?
For summer.
Pool's closed for ever.
Courts are full again, damn!
They were all empty when I looked out my window. Full by the time I got there.
Beats living on the streets.
This is cool and all but it also triggered my fear of falling specifically so fuck you. Still a neat picture.
Yesterday I tried to watch a How Ridiculous video (I have mixed feelings about them but they've metaphorically grown on me). In this particular one they're experimenting with the Magnus effect by throwing things off of a cliff.
They've done similar things before, mostly off of what they say is the highest dam in the world. However ... That has at least a guardrail. This was just a cliff and they had to stand right at the edge of it with no PPE.
I tried to endure but when they opened an umbrella over the drop I had to turn it off. It was surprising to me; they're usually at least half decent about safety. At the beginning of this video, one of them even commented on his "jelly legs."
Thats a lot of house
This looks like one of my Cities:Skylines cities.
Hong Kong housing complex.
It sure is!
i remember i lived in an apartment complex with a pool. we only had three warm months out of the year and i never used the pool anyway
Anyone else surprised by how empty the courts are?
The photo may have been taken at 5 in the morning or some equally unsociable hour for playing sports.
I assume the photographer wanted the courts and streets as empty as possible to create the right mood for the shot
You could also just take a couple of pictures and if people are moving, do an image stack and it removes the people from the images. Pretty classic technique to get rid of people from busy photos. These days you could also just use AI to remove people from pictures as well.
No, because it's 6:30am bro
There must be several thousand people living in those surrounding buildings. Not two of them get up early for a game of tennis before work?
Maybe they are not all allowed to use the courts.
despite all my rage...
I bet people there interact with other humans more often than suburbanites who only ever leave their property in a car.
Holy shit that looks and feels depressing. Let's give as little as possible to the peasants?
Sure, there are some activity spaces there for a small fraction of the people to enjoy, but that is nowhere near enough, and even then of course there is a road going through it
Holy shit that looks and feels depressing.
It's an interior shot from a forced perspective. If you're in a unit looking out on the city or at street level mixing with a crowd, I suspect the vibe is very different.
I'm sure it'll be different
I'm also sure it's Efron depressing still. I count some 13 buildings there, each likely over 250 apartments, each apartment likely an average of 3 persons, you do the math. That is a LOT of people with very little recreation area
Then the view... You can see a few hundred neighbors, and that is about it. I can make a fair guess that the other side of these apartments aren't going to have a much better view either
I count some 13 buildings there, each likely over 250 apartments, each apartment likely an average of 3 persons, you do the math. That is a LOT of people with very little recreation area
In the courtyard, maybe. No idea what it looks like outside this tower block.
You can see a few hundred neighbors, and that is about it.
From the inside window, sure. From the outside window, presumably you can see something different.
I also have no idea what the rent is in a place like this. Or the utilities. Or space of each unit. Or any other amenities the building might have. I don't even know what the interior looks like. Very hard to judge based on a single shot of a single wall from a weird angle.
One bathroom
I can see my house from here!
This is mesmerizing. But I just can’t help but wonder how full those tennis courts will be. Or maybe not all the apartments have access to the courts.
I wonder how big the apartments are
161-484 sq ft according to this information. https://www.happyhongkonger.com/why-are-hong-kong-apartments-so-small/
15-45m², that's... not big
But neither are they, so I bet it all works out proportionally.
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And thats my racist ration used up for today.
Stereotypes exist for a reason… when I stayed in Hong Kong, I got a room at a local chain for a night and my feet were hanging a good 3” off the edge of the bed (I’m only 6’). While walking through the city, I was a good head taller than everyone else there.
Like a modern Kowloon.
I know Kowloon was awful in pretty much every way, but there's just something so fascinating about it. I wish there was like an interactive "street view" type thing that let you walk through the entire complex.
So claustrophobic
