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[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 1 points 2 days ago

The v2 launcher will supposedly open up 5x faster on average upon cold boots, while restoring it from the system tray will be 6.5x faster on average. That's a huge improvement, but keep in mind that Epic got these numbers from a ridiculous test bench comprised of a 32-core AMD Threadripper, an RTX A6000, and 128GB of RAM. Not exactly consumer-grade hardware, especially during these times.

So, we can expect, at best, 1.2x faster reponse. I bet it will still be a piece of shit unreal app that's little more than yet another electron

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 138 points 1 week ago (5 children)

It was never about any of that. It's that Valve is a trustworthy company so far and epic is not. The only way at this point I would buy from epic store is if they offered DRM free copies.

[–] Feyd@programming.dev 73 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I'm sure it's about that for some people, but yeah if they ever actually get significant market share they will enshittify so fast it'll make your head spin. The only thing that has changed is they've decided they need to make a bare minimum experience instead of just throwing money around.

That's why I said DRM free, because I don't trust them, so I would only buy something if I could take it and use it away from their store forever.

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[–] Master167@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

Even if they offer DRM free copies, I’d use GoG first. The Epic Game Store just doesn’t have the feature parity with GoG or Steam stores.

[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Replace 'buy' with 'download for free' and 'launcher' with 'unnecessary software after the download completes', and they might get my attention.

I wasn't swayed by their 'free' games that require their software. I wasn't swayed when they bought up exclusivity contracts (yarr!). I'm sure as fuck not going to be swayed by the software having the absolute bare-minimum feature set.

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They definitely lost sales because of how horrible the user experience was/is, too.

Remember how the store launched without a fucking shopping cart so you had to buy each game as a separate transaction? Pepperidge Farms remembers that Epic isn't even capable of the most basic of features required for an online store.

Of course, they'll never get a cent out of me after they pulled that scumbag move of putting games on sale without ever asking the devs - they put games that hadn't even released at like 50% off!

[–] warmaster@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Fuck Tim. He's the reverse-GabeN. NebaG ? 🤣

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[–] False@lemmy.world 127 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] QuandaleDingle@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

I love this XD

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[–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 74 points 1 week ago (2 children)

And Linux support right?

Right?

[–] seathru@quokk.au 31 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If anything this will likely break support with Lutris, Heroic, and others so they can force you to run their client.

[–] RogueBanana@piefed.zip 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Isn't legendary using the APIs directly? It could affected by minor changes I suppose but hopefully that can be updated. Not sure if Lutris uses legendary but heroic does.

[–] doublah@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 week ago

The APIs are all undocumented and reverse engineered for Legendary. Chances are a major re-write like this could change the APIs.

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[–] Zozano@aussie.zone 54 points 1 week ago

Watch me not give a fuck 6.5x faster.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 42 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Steam: Good featureset, good Linux support, large library, probably going to be around in 10 years.

GOG: Offline installers, some explicitly DRM-free stuff, much easier to avoid unwanted updates of games, no need for a launcher.

Matrix: Specialized niche wargaming stuff, some physical media, can avoid unwanted updates, no need for a launcher.

What does Epic bring to the table?

Every additional store I deal with brings some hassle, and especially for online stuff, if it goes away, so do my games.

[–] timochka@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

If it brought a big picture mode with controller navigation that wasn't irretrievably broken, that would be an improvement.

Steam's website design generally is so bad, and when you then add big-picture and controller it's "I can't believe it's not a teenager's first web project" bad.

Steam has a lot going for it, but don't pretend it's perfect.

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[–] observes_depths@aussie.zone 39 points 1 week ago (4 children)

They already lost me when they told me I couldn't play a downloaded game without an internet connection. DRM free is the only way.

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[–] mellowistheyellow@lemmy.zip 37 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Took 7 years to have reviews? I dont fucking get it, like at all.

[–] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 17 points 1 week ago

Because they knew they'll get bombarded with people shitting on the epic version and recommending the steam version over and over.

[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago

It’s claiming to be 6 times faster, and then it’ll turn out to be an Electron app.

Don’t get me wrong, I hope otherwise…

[–] IronKrill@lemmy.ca 27 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Will this be like the v1 roadmap where they continuously delayed many features until they gave up and privated the entire Trello board?

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

But now they have AI to do all the hard implementation work! Choo choo, here comes the slop train!!

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago
  1. I lose access to the email I've had since 1997.

I try to reset my login credentials. The website is caught in a loop. I open a tech support issue explaining that I just need to change my email.

I get sent an automated reply being told email changes use the automated system......the one caught in the loop.

I post a reply to my ticket saying I can't use the automated system. It's stuck in a loop.

I get sent an automated reply being told to use the automated system.

I search google for an 800 number. I find there is no 800 number.

2026 I still haven't changed my email address. I also haven't bought a single game. I claim the free ones, snd I can still log in for now. But I just know eventually it'll say something like "For security purposes we've emailed you a code" snd that email will go to my lost email address. And I will have lost the whole account. So I'm not spending money on games I could lose next week.

So Epic, you want sales? Step 1, let me change my login email.

Step 2......well, you're still fucked. Steam is a juggernaut in their space.

But at least you gained 1 potential customer. Though lets be real.this 3 year wait has left a pretty bad taste im my mouth. I'm not sure if regaining my account would prompt me to buy from a company making me wait this long.

If it exists on GOG or Steam, I can't imagine wanting it on Epic.

[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 1 week ago

They didn't get people into their store by literally giving up free games.

They are not getting people in with q UI redesign.

[–] LostWanderer@fedia.io 25 points 1 week ago (2 children)

LOL After all this time, now they decide to finally compete?! Tom Sweeney is a creep and a weirdo, I'm never going to buy anything from the platform. As a Linux gamer, I don't have a strong interest in Epic at all. I deleted my Epic Games account about nearly two years ago because their service was garbage and I prefer to use Heroic Games Launcher to connect to GOG.

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[–] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I've been rapidly barrelling toward a DRM-free-only self-hosted future, and part of that is DRM-free books. In an attempt to get out of Amazon's clutches, I looked for where I can buy DRM-free books, like Project Hail Mary. The answer I came up with was: nowhere. Everyone is following the same playbook. Why would I buy from your store if you're doing exactly what Amazon is doing? I'm already shopping on Amazon, and I want something better.

(The answer is that I can break the DRM on other stores, but I can't on Amazon. When it's this difficult to get DRM-free books, I wouldn't blame people for resorting to piracy.)

Why on earth would I buy from Epic if I have any other option? What are you doing better?

[–] RamRabbit@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Yeah, GOG is at least offering DRM-free games. That gives them one big plus over Steam and is why I maintain a library on both.

On the other hand, I can't name a single thing Epic does better than Steam and GOG.

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[–] IEatDaFeesh@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago

If what they claim is true then they're actually doing a good job. It's just that even with the significant advancements... I don't trust them. They should be working on their PR as well. More lawsuits in favor of consumers like the Apple lawsuit they had would help move people over.

[–] Solemarc@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Aren't user reviews one of the things that were on their original roadmap back when they first launched egs?

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[–] LemmyEntertainYou@piefed.social 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I actually don't care in the slightest about play profiles, reviews, etc. Most of Steam is just useless bloat to me. The problem with Epic is how damn laggy it is.

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All are expected to debut in the next 12 months.

Wouldn't want to rush these things. Absolute clowns lol.

[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

Needs more invasive AI features

[–] skozzii@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Once fortnite money dries up they will close up the store and you will lose all your games.

Pass.

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[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I hope it doesn‘t break Heroic launcher somehow.

[–] imjustjealous@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

That's probably the point.

[–] kat_angstrom@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

User reviews, huh? That only took, what, 7 years?

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[–] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Honestly could not think of a single thing that they could do to get me to download the launcher. None of those features make it steam, and never will

[–] Randelung@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I say let them try. If they actually innovate, we can only win. I'll believe it when I see it, but currently steam has a monopoly by virtue, and we know how that ended for Intel, noVideo, Microslop, goggle and pretty much every other monopoly. It's just GabeN holding the line before enshittification takes hold, and they're already very active against European ownership laws.

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[–] Linktank@lemmy.today 13 points 1 week ago

Classic case of too little, too late.

Get fucked Epic. Get epically fucked.

Dear Tim. Give up already.

[–] CaptainHowdy@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 week ago

Cool but can they make it so when I buy the game, it's in my steam library? No? Not interested.

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago
[–] Nightsoul@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

Imagine what the epic store would look like if instead of spending all that time and money suing stream, they used it on their launcher

[–] MyFriendGodzilla@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Lol guess its nearly time to watch another epic dumpster fire.

[–] almost1337@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm a little surprised they didn't wait until after all of the Valve monopoly suits to play out first, as if this is successful it will just undercut the argument against Valve.

[–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 7 points 1 week ago

If it's successful it might under cut the claims against Valve but they can just claim the press from the lawsuit helped break the monopoly -- and besides the lawsuit was just for PR and to try to get Valve to break financially. It was always a longshot that it'd do anything else. If it's unsuccessful, however, it can be blamed entirely on Valve and can be used to get the lawsuit to actually do something as "look we implemented everything Steam did and didn't get any more market share."

But Epic kinda doesn't have a choice. They're bleeding money, Fortnite is waning, they have no popular properties on the horizon, they're hard into AI for customer service and moderation which is only getting more expensive, and they keep doing the sweetheart deals to devs for their game giveaways which haven't really brought any paying users to the platform.

It's either attempt feature parity or start cutting the consumer facing part of the business, and for one of the industry's oldest and most prominent players that's really not a choice they want to make.

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