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[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 4 points 33 minutes ago

Do you want to get yelled at by a toxic boomer with a hard hat or do you want to get yelled at by a toxic boomer in a suit?

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 2 points 19 minutes ago

Post AI, you only can stare at a chat prompt if you're very lucky, and now you have to inhale even more toxic fumes for even longer, because your workplace's CEO have bribed Trump with a million dollar. Also the datacenter in your neighborhood is humming at night, and you're now supposed to entertain yourself by staring at Italian brainrot.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Why not do both and become a farmer?

[–] picnic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 56 minutes ago

I used to work (well still do, occasionally) at an engineering workshop, and many of those who worked in production, returned back to school, studied a few years and applied back for the office job.

And those are great employees, they usually know their shit and appreciate the office work, still understanding whats it like at the production side.

[–] WeeneyTodd@lemmy.world 6 points 9 hours ago

As a guy who used to work in soil remediation and now works in air quality monitoring, I say: why not both?

[–] Pollo_Jack@lemmy.world 26 points 14 hours ago

Worked in oil and gas, we dealt with spreadsheets. One coworker had a tumor that looked like a neck pillow. He couldn't stop working because healthcare in the US requires you to have a job.

Trades pay a lot to look like tough guys and trades sell that tough guy image to sell the job for less than it's worth.

[–] adarza@piefed.ca 29 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

i'll take the excel, but i'm making some scripts to automate some shit so i can screw around at least half the time

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 13 points 13 hours ago (4 children)

2 smart guys apply for an IT position: do you hire the reliable, hard working guy who never takes sick leave, or the lazy guy?

Always hire the lazy guy. They will go out of their way to find a better way to do the same fucking task so they can go back to being lazy.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

If both guys are smart, the hard working guy will find a better way to do the tasks and use the extra time to do other work.

The hard working guy will likely spend more time validating that the automation works correctly while the lazy guy won't. Checking every detail, tracking down the source of any issues and fixing them so they won't occur again is a lot of work. The lazy guy doesn't do that.

What the lazy guy does could be done by an LLM, what the hard working guy does can't be.

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 hours ago

So the classic reasoning was the other way around but that was before LLMs so I do wonder if you might be right.

[–] Sabata11792@ani.social 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I've automated my self out of most the work on Windows installs. More time to doom scroll youtube or do a lap around the office if I'm feeling ambitious.

Shit gets fixed and users are set up fast so I can go back to doing nothing.

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 hours ago

FOG servers are your friend.

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Can confirm. I hate doing things twice, or in some job aspects 50 times.

We had a software and the next step in workflow was outputting the various files to the departments, often same file but multiple output formats.

My coworkers would run the translations manually, set the parameters manually each time, and sit and watch/wait.

I'd be at the coffee machine or chatting to a coworker.

The president stops by "do we need to get you more work, because you are never at your desk"

Me, "My computer is running multiple file translations, it should be done in 20 minutes"

Him: "Oh, OK, maybe we can get these other people setup like that."

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

You can tell this story is bullshit because the manager was changed their mind.

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 hours ago

:) Wasn't my manager, my manager at the time hated improvements. It was president of company, so he overruled my manager.

[–] NOPper@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Isn't that Gates? It's a solid take and one I've kept in mind for years as a lazy man 😆

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 hours ago

I think it is! I had it in mind so long I forgot where it came from.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 23 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

I remember when I thought being more efficient would result in less work.

[–] crunchy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 14 hours ago

The trick is to not let anyone know you're being too efficient. Automate an 8-hour job down to a minute, say you finished it in 7.

[–] adarza@piefed.ca 10 points 15 hours ago

you must'a made the mistake of finishing something early or showing-off your 'optimizations'

[–] NOPper@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

The trick is to tell absolutely nobody then poke your mouse every few mins to make Teams think you're still online while playing games or reading. Or so I'm told.

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[–] filcuk@lemmy.zip 3 points 14 hours ago

I've made a career of automating excel (and away from excel all together).
I miss it sometimes, but then I need a bit of VBA again, and remember that I don't actually miss it all that much.

[–] binux@sh.itjust.works 90 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Alternative path: become an online grifter, make millions from being a degenerate, eventually get outed as a pedophile, convert to Christianity/Islam, profit!

[–] meejle@piefed.world 16 points 16 hours ago

Ahh the Russell Brand pipeline

[–] WhatsHerBucket@lemmy.world 8 points 15 hours ago

I hear this is the path to become president.

[–] fullsquare@awful.systems 42 points 18 hours ago

there's a couple of jobs where you get to do both!

[–] plyth@feddit.org 36 points 20 hours ago (5 children)

Don't underestimate the health risk of sitting.

[–] 4am@lemmy.zip 39 points 18 hours ago

Yeah but “just stand occasionally” is much easier than “don’t breath or get anything on your skin for 40 years”

[–] Sabata11792@ani.social 3 points 12 hours ago

Your telling me my hip and shoulders are supposed to be even?

[–] Nouvellalia@lemmy.world 24 points 19 hours ago

While this is true, the risks from sitting pale in comparison to the risks of industrial work. Also, they can be easily mitigated. You can't mitigate the damage done in an industrial setting much.

[–] BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

You'll need compression socks to stay healthy.

[–] plutopos@lemmy.zip 2 points 11 hours ago

The good old 'programmer socks'

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[–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 32 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

I worked construction and plant shutdowns when I was young. By the time I was in my mid twenties I had quit and went in to IT. The reason was simple. During my time in a union over ten of the old timers had died of cancer and other related illnesses. Only one of them was in their sixties. Over half were under forty. One of the best friends I will ever have died when he was fifty four. A month or so shy of when he was going to take early retirement.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 24 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

When I was a student, I wasn't really motivated and didn't have any idea what to do with my life. But then I worked as a window cleaner during the summer holidays and that gave me a very clear idea about what I didn't want to do with my life.

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[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 10 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

None of you have gotten high off acetone fumes and it shows

[–] Mucki@feddit.org 3 points 12 hours ago

This comment is already handcuffed, move on, nothing to see here.

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

respirators can reduce fume ingestion, eye damage is unavoidable from over exposure to computer graphics

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 hours ago

That’s…not a thing.

[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 5 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

at least you can wear forced air respirators for working with fumes

[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 15 hours ago

I mean, so you can while working with Excel

[–] ExtremeDullard@piefed.social 16 points 21 hours ago (29 children)

This is not a very convincing argument anymore: with AI, there'll only one path left soon. And it's not the one where you sit on your ass in front of a computer all day.

[–] ech@lemmy.ca 22 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (12 children)

Llms can't even do math. And odds on them figuring that "highly complicated" technology out before the bubble bursts seems low.

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