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[–] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 23 minutes ago (2 children)

This site is going to shit with all these "feminism sucks" takes in the comments section ignoring reality and blaming nonsense like this for "causing the far right" feels like being on reddit and that's a bad thing.

[–] Tyrq@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 8 minutes ago

Can you elaborate on "ignoring reality"?

[–] EyIchFragDochNur@lemmy.world 1 points 9 minutes ago

I want to believe they're bots

[–] vapordays@leminal.space 5 points 52 minutes ago (1 children)

Not being lame and pathetic means putting a rug and art in your house

[–] EyIchFragDochNur@lemmy.world 1 points 13 minutes ago

Can't confirm. I do have rugs and art.

[–] rustydrd@sh.itjust.works 6 points 55 minutes ago

Personally, I have no issue with people living with just the essentials, and although I can appreciate how other people decorate their flats, that would feel crowded to me very soon. Nothing wrong with being content with less.

[–] RBWells@lemmy.world 4 points 11 minutes ago

I cannot imagine anyone jumping to that conclusion, this has to be a joke. Like, when I first saw the house of my now husband, the front door opened to a big empty room and my first words were "oh, this is wonderful, it's so empty it looks like a ballroom, you could have a big party here!'. Like, sure, he cannot decorate and defers to me on home renovations now because he always likes what I design (I design, he has veto power) but how is that dysfunctional? He was just fine with the open space, it worked and a house is for the people who live there. And a big empty space is such a flex in a way, like look - I have more house than I need. Guys aren't waiting around hoping someone comes and fills that up, they are enjoying the space, right?

If someone compliments your home, I just can't see getting mad about it.

[–] rockerface@lemmy.cafe 47 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

Art on the wall? Rugs? I'm from Eastern Europe, best I can do is rugs on the wall

[–] SnowmenMelt@lemmy.world 3 points 43 minutes ago

Rugs on the wall, art on the floor?

[–] scutiger@lemmy.world 11 points 1 hour ago (1 children)
[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 hour ago

They can really tie a room together.

[–] NoTagBacks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 2 hours ago (11 children)

God, this shit pisses me off so fucking much because it's this bullshit-ass pop-philosophy that liberals have settled into that pushes away young men and perpetuates the patriarchal bullshit in the world. "tHeY'rE jUsT pUnChInG uP" NOBODY SHOULD BE PUNCHING ANYBODY. The problem is the fucking system, not who is doing the punching. Libs get so wrapped up in anything but the system that they make the problem worse. Like the popularization of the term "mansplaining". Oh neat, so now the problem women face about being seen as competent is about men. Because, of course, feminism didn't come about to improve the treatment of women, but to point out who the bad people are. The would you rather for women about running across a bear or a random man is about how man worse than bear, not that women feel so egregiously unsafe in their daily lives. Libs are so far up their own ass, they'd rather create another fucking problem than actually engage in being part of the solution. Libs will see one problem and be like "but what if it could be two problem?" Libs see women get mistreated for no reason then go "men should suffer, too", then pat themselves on the back because now everyone hates everyone, no matter the gender[bullshit-ass heart emojis].

Fuck the patriarchy.

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today 6 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

God, this shit pisses me off so fucking much because it's this bullshit-ass pop-philosophy that liberals have settled into that pushes away young men and perpetuates the patriarchal bullshit in the world.

To start with..... Have you ever even met anyone in real life that spoke this way? I feel like people on lemmy are so quick to see a post from an unknown random on the internet and speak about it as if it's an epidemic.

The problem is the fucking system, not who is doing the punching. Libs get so wrapped up in anything but the system that they make the problem worse. Like the popularization of the term "mansplaining". Oh neat, so now the problem women face about being seen as competent is about men.

I think the critique is aimed at a functional aspect of the system. You seem to acknowledge the patriarchy, which is a critique of a hierarchical system that is largely controlled by and benefits men. I don't see how agitating against mansplaining is anything but critical towards people talking over or diminishing the voices of women.

Because, of course, feminism didn't come about to improve the treatment of women, but to point out who the bad people are. The would you rather for women about running across a bear or a random man is about how man worse than bear, not that women feel so egregiously unsafe in their daily lives.

How do you change a system without being critical about aspects of the system that require change?

The man vs bear is definitely an allegory about how women feel unsafe due to the discrepancy of power between the sexes, in both physical and societal power.

Libs see women get mistreated for no reason then go "men should suffer, too", then pat themselves on the back because now everyone hates everyone, no matter the gender[bullshit-ass heart emojis].

I think the point is to highlight the discrepancy between the experiences of men and women. For example the man vs bear scenario isn't claiming that men too should be more afraid to run across a random woman than a bear. It's a way to highlight their perspective, the point is we should live in a society where women do not have to feel like they could become prey to unjust violence from a random man.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 44 minutes ago* (last edited 43 minutes ago) (1 children)

You and I seem to have the same opinion about this.

Feminism has basically been co opted into a kind of psuedo liberal, privileged, socially acceptable because it calls itself feminism, form of misandry.

Like this OP image person would be the same person who would likely call a straight dude gay, as an insult, because he declined a second date with her.

Its wild because... like... these people are ostensibly 'liberal', they'll tell you they are, but they're actually not.

They believe in the concept of equal rights and opportunity, universally, for all... to the same the same extent that conservatives believe in Democracy or States Rights.

They don't actually believe in them.

They believe in them as rheotically useful dialects to speak about things from... but they don't actually believe in the actual principles.

Like we've gotten to the point in politics and society where everyone is so thoroughly full of shit, that we have an illiberal center, roughly, that then just pantomimes different flavors of rhetorical style... and then on the extreme ends you have people that actually believe in any principles beyond 'Im awesome and my team rocks'.

We are so fucking cooked lol, the owners have divided and conquered our minds extremely thoroughly.

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today 1 points 17 minutes ago

Feminism has basically been co opted into a kind of psuedo liberal, privileged, socially acceptable because it calls itself feminism, form of misandry.

Has it? Or is this just what people opposed to actual feminism claim feminism is all about?

There is a feminist subgroup here on lemmy and it does not look anything like this post.

[–] kibiz0r@midwest.social 6 points 2 hours ago

They have to play men and women against each other. Or else they would have to explain how systemic patriarchy manages to self-replicate despite worsening the lives of nearly all of the people (of all genders) who suffer under it. And the answer to that is: capitalism. Which is not an acceptable answer for the donor class.

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[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 101 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Maybe the dude was just... you know.

Poor.

Came from an environment that was usually a mess, chaotic, disordered, and he was genuienly impressed by how simple things, in order, can give a significant sense of safety and stability.

Maybe he'd never seen that before, maybe he had no model of a tidy and peaceful living space.

The same scenario could happen with anyone, of any sex or gender.

Man, broad societal levels of narcissism are just off the fucking charts these days... its the literal opposite of solidarity, of empathy.

[–] Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (2 children)

Or maybe he was just being nice? I can't imagine being invited to friend's new house and not giving compliments unless im like worried about them moving into an unsafe situation.

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[–] EggInDisguise@lemmy.blahaj.zone 33 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Growing up my house was always trashed. Parents with depression and full time jobs don't leave much time and energy for cleaning up, and there's only so much children without guidance can do.

So once I had my own defined space, it was basically minimalist to expedite cleaning. I didn't start getting more stuff, even clothes, until my partner moved in.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Me growing up, it wasn't quite that bad for myself, but some of my neighbors were from... way more fucked up families.

They had basically this exact same 'Wow.' moment, just... coming over, and seeing that... order was possible, things could be put basically back in place after use, etc.

They had no previous concept of it.

I remember going over to one of their houses once and literally stepping in dogshit, inside.

They just... forgot to let the dog out, I guess. Regularly enough that this was annoying but basically normal.

[–] EggInDisguise@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 14 minutes ago

Depression is a bitch, and that makes you not want to clean. Then the grossness makes you more depressed.

Never ending loop.

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 90 points 4 hours ago (15 children)

I keep seeing this content that’s “men are so stupid and inferior and awful” and it’s grating on me.

Like, yes, there’s definitely a strong toxic subset of men, but most of use are just… normal?

I’m in my mid 30s, when the women aren’t around we’re mostly talking about kids (those who have them), hockey, finances, house stuff, and weird health issues. Depending on the group, how stupid politics/government shit is lately.

I don’t know. It feels like the toxicity that came for incels is coming at women hard these last few years. Reddit really pushes this stuff lately.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 63 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (6 children)

I keep seeing this content that’s “men are so stupid and inferior and awful” and it’s grating on me.

That's because it's troll bait. Just like all generations have a bigger than wanted set of shitty people. I don't feel like I can take this shit down because it's not breaking any rules. You all can help by not falling for the bait though.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 9 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I appreciate you following the rules but tbh ragebait should be on of them. Lemmy is getting flooded with it lately. So many old, stupid social Twitter posts that do nothing but rile people up

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

This has 300+ upvotes right now though. I ethically agree with you, but I took over this community. If the community upvotes this sort of thing, I don't feel like I have the right to remove it because I think it's stupid and causes harm. I really want to, ha ha.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 1 points 22 minutes ago

I know the opinion of one anonymous user doesn't carry a lot of weight but this would be my counterargument:

Upvotes are not a good gauge when people will upvoted anything that reinforces their beliefs. Even if it's straight up wrong like so many social media screenshots are.

Not all engagement is good engagement and more activity doesn't necessarily lead to a better community. Lemmy has been flooded with ragebait and say-nothing tweets lately and I fear it's becoming the norm

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[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today 1 points 9 minutes ago

keep seeing this content that’s “men are so stupid and inferior and awful” and it’s grating on me.

Because there are groups specifically circulating ragebait to radicalize young and impressionable men into right winged radicalism. People see this all over the internet, but what do you see in real life? In my experience I have seen plenty of examples of casual misogyny in real life, I've never really seen any form of "misandry" in person.

[–] Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 59 minutes ago

People are talking to people in real life less and less these day. The people they do talk to tend to be of the same gender, this was a thing before the Internet but the Internet has made it worse. Combine that with algorithms where the first thing they learn about you is your gender and will feed you content accordingly, peoples view of the opposite gender becomes more and more distorted. So the terminally online people, that also make a lot of the content on the Internet, tend to become misogynist or misandrist.

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 6 points 1 hour ago

I upvoted because the two panel underneath is mocking the ragebait post.

[–] Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

I will say i have zero appreciation for "nice" things and the house looking cozy or whatever. If it were up to me I would live in a bare apartment with everything painted white and minimal furniture. And there's nothing wrong with that and i have no reason to change.

Of all the things that are wrong with me and perhaps other men, this is just not one of them, it's just a style preference, there's zero morality involved. Whoever doesn't like it can just not fuck with me, just like i dont fuck with decorations.

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