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Yeah, I appreciate it. It's so aggravating seeing silly baby shit like this that only serves to hold any actual progress back. It's not only eyeroll-inducing to hear things like "hUmAn BaD" or "America bad", it's just entirely unhelpful for how childishly oversimplified it is. I appreciate the passion many leftists have that talk like this, but it does so much damage when it misses the point just so very hard.

Removed for "civility". What a fucking joke. People get bent out of shape over the most ridiculous shit.

Oh hey, I appreciate you engaging with my absurd and irrationally earnest beef with this idiom.

So I hear what you're saying about salt helping with bitter flavors, but I don't think the flavor of poison is the primary issue with why you wouldn't want to ingest it. I think my point still stands that if we're doing this weird eating information thing, you still just don't eat it if it's poison, regardless of whether you do or don't have an antidote. Or a way to flavor it.

I was actually aware of the Latin word translated as salt for this idiom also meaning wit, and I'm actually glad you brought it up. "Consider this with a grain of wit" would be a fantastic idiom and I'd be all for it. All the more reason "take it with a grain of salt" makes no sense if it's a bad translation.

I understand the idiom stands as it does in our language because language standards are more about usage than rigid systemic rules, but COME ON! There's gotta be a line, right? I get that trying to standardize language is real tricky and historically has been very problematic (looking at you, rich Victorian British fucks), but man, some of these things are so useless that they couldn't even qualify as filler words. I know it's weird how hard I hate this fucking idiom, but also fuck this idiom.

Not trying to throw shade your way, just to be clear. I appreciate your engagement. All shade reserved for this damn idiom, though.

Man, to this day the phrase "take it with a grain of salt" makes no sense to me. For one, I see people use the phrase(as above) as adding a singular grain of salt... which wouldn't do anything. But if, as suggested here, it's more to point out that further seasoning and/or flavoring isn't required, then what... what? Are we eating information? What does that even mean? If it's seasoned, then why does that mean I should be skeptical? If someone makes something I would be skeptical of, why tf would I eat it?

I actually looked this up because it was(still is) driving me crazy. A possible origin of the phrase goes back to Pliny the Elder adding a grain of salt to a poisin antidote. Maybe it was to make the antidote easier to ingest(which, once again, a singular grain wouldn't make a difference, so it's possible that it's a pinch)? So we're skeptical of the antidote when we're calling the info given poisin??? But it could also be the case that a popular myth was that a pinch of salt neutralized poison, possibly referring to a misunderstanding of Pliny the Elder's recipe. But if something is poisoned, don't fucking eat/drink it? Like seriously, if someone you don't trust gives you food/drink that you think could be poisoned, and we even temporarily grant that a grain/pinch of salt neutralizes the pain, it STILL doesn't make sense, because why would you accept anything from that person at all if you think they're trying to kill you??? ALSO ONCE AGAIN, ARE WE EATING INFORMATION IN THIS HYPOTHETICAL??? WHAT DOES THAT EVEN MEAN?

And then I've seen the camp of using salt as a currency, leaning into the value aspect of it, suggesting adding a singular grain of salt finally gives it value(which, like... is that what you mean?). Since the phrase is supposed to invoke skepticism, I'd imagine the value measured is truth? So if the salt you take the information with is skepticism, then how does the skepticism alter the truth value? And, again, if the information is worthless don't buy it for any price, same as don't eat the fucking poisin. At least in this scenario we're not eating information.

In any case, and even aside from whether or not the idiom even makes sense, I don't understand why the phrase is even used at all to advise skepticism since any usage I've ever heard or read of it is clearly(to me) redundant and/or unwarranted. "This comment comes from [unreliable source], so take it with a grain of salt." Yeah? It's an unreliable source. If someone already knew, the added idiom is kinda insulting. If someone didn't know or disagreed(that it's unreliable), then the added idiom only serves to add confusion. "The numbers may look promising, but take it with a grain of salt." Okay? Yeah, obviously don't draw conclusions from just "the numbers" as there's always more to whatever form of statistical analysis this hypothetical is, but it's totally unclear what the idiom is even trying to say. The numbers lie? The numbers are an anomaly? The source is unreliable? It actually looks bad if you look closer? And if it's to point out that it could be any of those things and more, well no shit, bro. Once again, if someone already knows to be skeptical, it's insulting and unwarranted, if someone doesn't know to be skeptical, they need to be informed of the reason to be skeptical before "be skeptical" makes any sense. It's functionally useless.

I don't get it. I don't get the appeal, I don't understand how's it's supposed to mean what it's supposed to mean, even granting that language and phrases evolve in strange ways. I don't understand how and why people use it. I don't understand how people see logic in it. I dunno, maybe I'm the idiot here.

TL;DR: Please stop eating information, thank you. I don't understand the phrase, so take it with a grain of salt(?).

So their god has some kinda electromagnetic properties? Is that why iron chariots are his weakness?

Jesus, they really are just cartoon level evil. Like, a five year old wrote this and the adults are like "lol, that's unrealistic, but you're five, so ¯_(ツ)_/¯".

ADHD is a neurodevelopmental disorder, either you're born with it or you're not. Sure, lots of things fight for our attention and that probably affects us in some way, but distractability isn't the same thing as ADHD. It's primarily a regulation disorder rather than 'can't focus disease'. Where I think you bring up a good point in a mechanism that probably reveals ADHD in some people, I would definitely give pushback on what appears to be a suggestion that the advertising industry as it exists causes ADHD. I don't think any serious psychological professional would make that assertion.

This is the correct answer and I feel it's very important to emphasize this point. You can have "symptoms" of whatever the fuck, but in order for it to be considered a disorder, it must disrupt your life in some way. I usually lean more into the camp of just trying to be supportive of people when they speak about mental health disorders, but there are definitely those kids out there self-diagnosing disorders like they're collecting pokemon. As someone who legitimately has been diagnosed with multiple disorders by actual licensed psychological professionals, it's aggravating to see those kids infantilize mental health in that capacity, where it perpetuates the already uphill battle for many of us to be taken seriously in the first place. ADHD has absolutely ruined my life and I would absolutely(in a hypothetical) take a relatively high chance of death at "curing" my ADHD without a single hesitation. Life is hard enough with all these fucking disorders, definitely don't need the added burden of always feeling like I have to prove that I really am that fucked up.

Imagine being so much of a piece of shit that you ban people for talking about the genocide in Ukraine right now. Like, it's even more wild because they claim to be a communist, yet they're simping for a literal fascist state doing an old-school imperialist invasion.

Yup. It seems that whenever you stop being quite as inconvenient to neurotypicals, suddenly "you're fine, you just need to apply yourself".

Man, that's exactly how I got diagnosed again as an adult. I was taken off of medication and all that when I was 12, so I thought I didn't really have ADHD. Years later, I'm watching a video of "you might have ADHD if..." for laughs and it went something like:

"LAWL."

"LOL"

"lol"

"... ah, beans."