thats alot of sweating.
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Please. You don't use exercise to lose weight. That's what bootleg weight loss drugs are for.
This one hits close to home. I was in great shape the first half-plus of my life. Played sports, swam competitively, did the Marine thing. Always had a reason to want to not be out of shape, mainly so doing things didn't suck.
Lost reason. Packed some pounds on, maybe 20 or so.
Finally decided about a year and a half ago to start running again, and so now I run like 35-40 miles a week, and every run I see the calories. Run for 45 minutes, burn like 650 calories. Costco has these cookies that I have to avoid seeing, and each cookie is 200 calories, and I can easily eat three, four, five at a clip, with a nice tall glass of milk. And so I'll run for 90 minutes, and literally offset the benefit entirely in 10 minutes watching Netflix before bed.
It's not fair. But it is what it is. And so my reason to run is chocolate chip cookies.
I got a recumbent bike from a sale at a big box store. Set up a Steam Link (yes i know its old as fuck) and a Steam Controller. I play my library of games while I bike. The last few years I play Fall Guys for anywhere from 30-60 minutes at a time.
Great cardio. I forget I'm even doing it. Usually burn around 300-500 in a session a few times a week. All that said, I still eat like shit and can't lose weight... BUT I am not putting any on. So thats nice I guess.
As someone else mentioned, humans are hilariously good at cardio. And the more you do it the more efficient you become at it, which means less calories burned.
Then there's NEAT (Non-Exercise Activity Thermogenesis) which is unconscious movements you perform during the day. This accounts for a huge number of calories you burn during the day. Both exercise and cutting calories reduce NEAT, especially at you get leaner.
This isn't to say you shouldn't cut calories or exercise. Reducing caloric intake absolutely works, you just need to be aware that your body will adjust to it, and that you should take breaks from dieting occasionally to bring your daily estimated calorie burn back up. Exercise should be thought of as something that improves health with a side benefit of some caloric burn.
Just my opinion.
It is easier to limit excess calories than to burn them with exercise, for sure.
But I do the recommended 30 minutes of βmoderate exerciseβ and I see 200 calories, so it is maybe not entirely as dismal as this?
Exercise is good for mental health
I'm 265 lbs. and if the treadmill takes that into account I see about 400 calories down 30 minutes into my 5k.
BUT, the saying I've heard is "you can't outrun your fork" and it seems to be true. (For example, I quite enjoy eating 2000 calories at a buffet in 30 minutes... if I'm going to get back down to a reasonable weight, I have to DON'T DO THAT.)
It is actually harder this time, because before the rapist-in-chief got re-elected, I was down to 220 and could finish a 5k in <28 minutes.
building muscle through resistance training is the best way to get your body to burn more calories. cardio is exercise for heart and lungs
Part of the trick is finding an exercise that's actually enjoyable to do so that you don't care how hard you're working or how much time has passed. Time is gonna pass extra slow on a treadmill and feel really difficult, if you're not enjoying it. I find that the bicycle is that sweet spot for me, I do it because it's fun not because of my health.
Part of the trick is finding an exercise thatβs actually enjoyable to do so that you donβt care how hard youβre working or how much time has passed.
So sports?
If sports is that thing for you, yeah. I actually hate doing most sports.
Part of the trick is finding an exercise thatβs actually enjoyable to do so that you donβt care how hard youβre working or how much time has passed.
That's why I take an edible and then run the treadmill.
Whatever works!
I like riding a bmx bike but I'm also pushing 40 so I look like an old crackhead who just stole a kids BMX bike if I do.
Do it, nobody gives a shit more than you do
If it's something you both enjoy and that is good for your health, you need to double-ignore any "haters". They aren't going to live in your head with your future body, so fuck 'em.
In my 30s I lived in Seattle and rode bikes everywhere. I was proud on the day I rode a bmx from the stadium up and over to the other side of Capitol Hill where I lived. It's only a 3 mile (4.8 km) trip but with a 400 ft (121.9 m) change in elevation.
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I've never found an exercise I enjoy. The closest I got was DDR, but the home pads suck and the arcades cost too much.
I do the treadmill because I can let my mind and hand set the pace. If I'm on a bike, I won't get my HR into zone 2, because I'm lazy.
Ever try a rowing machine?
I do rows for resistance/strength training, but I don't think I've ever used a rowing machine for cardio.
I have an exercise bike at home, so I've taken to dragging it into the living room and playing video games while I do an hour of zone 2. I end up finishing my hour before I even realize it; plus, trying not to get curbstomped in Elden Ring is incredibly conducive to keeping your heart rate up.
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It's actually infuriating how energy efficient the human body is...in peace time anyways.
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Some things I've learned throughout the years that may be useful to some people:
- if your aim is to use a lot of energy, dialing down the intensity significantly and working for a longer time is the way to go
- basically all cardio machines at the gym are going to be boring as all hell, going outside and doing activities is a lot more fun
- baking in activity into your day-to-day routines is very helpful. Transporting yourself by biking, walking, taking transit, a mix of all of the above makes a large difference
- cardio as a means of losing weight has a downside in that vigorous exercise provokes a lot of hunger. make sure to combine with small sustainable changes in diet for best results
Additionally:
- if you're severely overweight, some cardio routines can be a serious health risk. If you're way too heavy, your joints won't be able to sustain long walks or jogging
- slow and steady wins the race. Don't expect yourself to lose all the excess weight in a matter of months. That's almost impossibly difficult and even if successful likely no healthy. Instead develop healthy habits and let the results come in naturally over time
basically all cardio machines at the gym are going to be boring as all hell, going outside and doing activities is a lot more fun
Or, alternatively, use the stationary nature of indoor machines to make it less boring. I typically read. Or maybe watch a show or movie.
Outside is great too of course, but bad weather can be hard to overcome depending on where you live.
Thing to try: Get a bike trainer, subscribe to Zwift, and play a game an hour or so a day.
It could happen one day! I'm already getting more than sufficient training, and adding 1 hour of training a day on top of my current volume would be actively counterproductive.
I've learned that cardio can work, but there's also a lot of truth to that "you can't outrun a bad diet" saying. Like you said, your body can subtly undermine your work by making you more hungry, and it can also cause you to be less active in between exercise without realizing it.
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Trail running makes running so much better, but also I find an hour and a half on the treadmill way easier than an hour and a half on the stationary bike.
I love riding bikes outside, but I can't stand riding on the trainer. And whenever I say it, there's always someone trying to convince me that I'm being irrational for not liking both
Nah, I'm 100% with you. I love riding my bike outside, the fluidity of movement, leaning into bends and corners, the breeze of fresh air and so much more that's simply lacking on a trainer.
Me, I want to exercise on the machines / mills because as soon as I'm done I want to be in a air-conditioned building. :)
But, I think I'm the weird one. IME, most people enjoy exercising outside more, if not exclusively.
"You just eat less and exercise more."
- Crunch Bandicoot, Crash Nitro Kart
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People must be made so different. Exercise is the main factor in my size & weight. Like, even getting a job where I have to go up the stairs makes a difference.
And remember that there are so many benefits to exercise, beyond body shape. Cardio is so good for your heart and helps ease anxiety, lifting is so good for your bones, yoga helps keep you resilient & mobile so you don't break when you fall down, and helps with balance.
All of them help offset all the sitting most of us have to do at work.
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