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The phrase “tax the rich” can be “just as hateful as some disgusting racial slurs”, according to the New York City billionaire Steve Roth, who said that the top 1% should be “praised and thanked”.

Speaking on his company’s quarterly earnings call on Tuesday, Roth, the CEO of Vornado Realty Trust, expressed his support for fellow billionaire and the CEO of Citadel, Ken Griffin, who was singled out in the 15 April announcement by New York’s mayor, Zohran Mamdani, of the state’s first “pied-à-terre” tax on second homes valued at more than $5m. In a video, Mamdani announced the policy in front of Griffin’s penthouse, which he said was purchased for $238m.

“We are all shocked that our young mayor would pull this stunt in front of Ken’s home and single him out for ridicule,” Roth said. “This was both irresponsible and dangerous.”

Edit: Mamdani's video that sparked this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLKZnVB4F9k

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[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 58 points 2 days ago

Just to highlight that as a real estate magnate, his entire empire is built on rent-seeking, i.e. accumulating wealth by the hoarding of a limited resource, without having created anything of value.

This billionaire did not create a billion dollars of value for society, even indirectly; he only took it from others.

[–] deadymouse@lemmy.world 38 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Oh, I think he'll like this inevitable outcome then.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 24 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Man with more money than he could possibly use in his life is upset at the suggestion that some portion of the money he will never used could be used to help other people.

Being a billionaire is a sign of mental illness and needs to start being treated as such.

[–] WiredBrain@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago

Financial obesity

[–] shweddy@lemmy.world 241 points 3 days ago (7 children)

Bitch, taxing the rich is the humane option

[–] WYLD_STALLYNS@lemmy.dbzer0.com 74 points 3 days ago (4 children)

I get the feeling we’re getting closer to starting to spit roast them.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

my dude it's been like 500, 600 years. there are better ways to get things doner

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[–] toiletobserver@lemmy.world 28 points 3 days ago

I'd be willing to accept the... Alternative

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[–] Clutter@sh.itjust.works 22 points 2 days ago

Mamdani is choosing the lesser evil here my dear rich person... The other options is: we kill you.

[–] Microtonal_Banana@lemmy.zip 27 points 2 days ago

"Tax the rich" is the 99% being nice. We could go the France in 1792 route.

[–] nonentity@sh.itjust.works 35 points 2 days ago

Financial obesity is an existential threat to any society that tolerates it, and needs to cease being celebrated, rewarded, and positioned as an aspirational goal.

Corporations are the only ‘persons’ which should be subjected to capital punishment, but billionaires should be euthanised through taxation.

[–] NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.net 38 points 2 days ago (1 children)

"TAX" is going to be the softest, most palateable verb that will be done to them, the alternatives are a little less polite.

[–] proofchampionship184@lemmy.zip 11 points 2 days ago (5 children)

“Oh, would you prefer ‘torture and execute’ then?” Lmao

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[–] shittydwarf@sh.itjust.works 135 points 3 days ago (2 children)
[–] Luci@lemmy.ca 55 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 40 points 3 days ago

Shittydwarf for comptroller!

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[–] volore@scribe.disroot.org 116 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I feel like Mr. Roth has forgotten that being taxed is the alternative we came up with to beheadings for the upper class when they got too rich and powerful.

[–] SolarMonkey@slrpnk.net 15 points 2 days ago

Yeah.. tax the rich is the nicest thing we could be saying.. they’ve definitely forgotten…

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.cafe 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago

We really should make a list. Not like in list format, something more durable like baking it into some type of meme.

[–] peaceful_world_view@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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[–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 89 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Waaah wahh

These people are lucky. No ones eaten them yet.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 77 points 3 days ago

"He will learn over time that growing a tax base is a winner and raising taxes is a loser … and that the hard-working 1% are allies, not enemies.”

Translation: "we're still working on finding ways to make him do our bidding"

[–] WhyDoYouThinkThat@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago
[–] Earthman_Jim@lemmy.zip 33 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

"Tax the rich" is putting it very nicely.

They've dehumanized themselves with their monstrous exploitation.

[–] fodor@lemmy.zip 15 points 2 days ago

That's pretty funny because the phrase doesn't actually have a negative meaning. It's a policy proposal at face value and at depth and that's it. Doesn't say the rich or bad people, although many of them are, doesn't say that nobody should be rich, doesn't even say how much they should be taxed.

And certainly nobody should be thanking the top 1%. We all know that they got there by lying and cheating and stealing and inheriting wealth.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 41 points 2 days ago (4 children)

He views the Rich as a separate ethnic group.

from wiki:

An ethnicity or ethnic group is a group of humans who identify with each other on the basis of perceived shared attributes that distinguish them from other groups. Attributes that ethnicities believe to share include language, culture, common sets of ancestry, traditions, society, religion, history, or social treatment.

He's mostly right, but that doesn't invalidate criticisms of the Rich.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Finally, a morally and ethically acceptable group to do ethnic cleansing on!

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[–] StarryPhoenix97@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago (3 children)

That’s like admitting they live in a completely different world. That’s what blows my mind. By implication, he’s admitting the wealthy exist in a completely separate reality. That the shadow economy is real, and that the average person is effectively a second-class citizen. It’s an acknowledgment that it is, and maybe always has been, us versus them. I've always said they exist in a completely different world, one that operates on different rules than the rest of us. More than just the obvious. Everything you posted, culture, norms, ancestry, history. They will never change to help you. They will always operate from a place of exploitation. It's their culture. They made it so.

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[–] RunawayFixer@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)


Source: https://www.moralambition.org/stories/tax-fairness-explainer

Also, the above graph compares averages vs averages. The average of the top bracket is made up of some very rich people who accept that paying taxes is a fair thing to do, and some who try to contribute as little as possible by evading as much as possible. Because he'd prefer us to not talk about this, I have the suspicion that Mr Steve Roth falls into the 2nd category.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It he prefers "eat the rich", I won't object.

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[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 32 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Bring back the tax brackets from the 1960's. That should solve the problems. Fucking Ronnie Reagan and his deregulation.

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[–] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago
[–] DonutsRMeh@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

Oh rich please.

[–] WandowsVista@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

makes sense, rich people are the only truly protected class

[–] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 3 days ago (2 children)

What a little pathetic bitch. Eat the rich

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[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 42 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

we’re gonna eat you, you rich motherfuckers

[–] Longylonglong@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 days ago

Maybe he should just go fuck himself

[–] EvergreenGuru@lemmy.world 46 points 3 days ago

“I’m afraid of the poors!”

Boys, we have them right where we want them.

[–] boogiebored@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago

sure fine whatever

here’s another

kill em all

[–] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 37 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

"We want you to pay your fair share of taxes to maintain the system you enjoy the benefits and protection of." = slur?

Eat all of my shit and hair, Steve Roth. You sound like a real turd of a human being.

[–] JPSound@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Is "guillotine" a softer word? We could and should just use that instead. I'm all about catering to the elites' baby soft thin skin.

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[–] flandish@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (2 children)

how much proof do we need that the rich are a different species?

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[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 33 points 3 days ago

From the crowd that came up with gems as "bank accounts are citizenship", "transactions are free speech" and "attorney fees are justice". Comes the latest madness "tax is a hate crime".

[–] Man_kind@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 days ago

This is why the rich need to be taxed.

[–] yesman@lemmy.world 32 points 3 days ago

Tax that peckerwood until he starts singing spirituals.

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